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Old 07-06-2015, 05:52 PM
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Default Cap Anson - Early images?

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I've seen several images from the late 1860's to early 1880's that include Cap Anson, but all are team cabinets, photos, or supplements. I haven't seen any individual (i.e., "Anson-only") CDV's, cards, or photos of him that pre-date the 1887 Old Judge(s). Does anyone have any early material they can share? Given his prominence in the game, I would have assumed there would have been at least a handful of "Anson-only" studio cabinets or CDV's floating around.

If there aren't any, are there any theories as to why no such material exists?
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Derek:

There is an 1874 individual image of Anson, I forget whether it's a CDV or cabinet, which is the same one used in the 1874 Harper's Weekly team woodcut. Sold at auction several years ago, might have been Heritage, I'm not sure.
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Default Re: Cap Anson - Early images?

Here's one. I think it's dated 1884. I just read that Cap Anson was the first
player to ever get caught with a corked bat (in 1884).
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Here is the Anson that Phil was referring to. It was a part of a collection of 1874 Philadelphia Athletic cabinet cards sold by Heritage several years ago. I believe that they were all cut down slightly and were used to create a composite of the team. It is not mine. The cabinet now belongs to a very advanced collector who has an absolutely spectacular collection.
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Yup, that's the one, thanks for doing the legwork, Kevin.
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Here is one from NYPL.
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Thank you all...Keep 'em coming!!
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Later on, but this belonged to Anson himself

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Did you check out my website, capanson.com? The "photo archive" and "cards and collectibles" pages should help.

Photos: http://www.capanson.com/photo_archive.html
Cards: http://www.capanson.com/baseball_cards.html




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Hi Brad - yes, I have frequented your site many times. Can you provide more details about the early Anson photo you posted? Is it a period cabinet photo, or a cut-out from a larger piece or simply a much later photo re-strike?

On a similar note, I've always wondered about the characteristics of the 1869 Marshalltown photo. Is it a cabinet photo?

Thanks for contributing.
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Hi Brad - yes, I have frequented your site many times. Can you provide more details about the early Anson photo you posted? Is it a period cabinet photo, or a cut-out from a larger piece or simply a much later photo re-strike?

On a similar note, I've always wondered about the characteristics of the 1869 Marshalltown photo. Is it a cabinet photo?

Thanks for contributing.
Derek,

That's a great question about the 1869 Marshalltown team photo... I'd never gone back to look for the source photo - only seen it cropped on various sites and in publications. I first went to look at some photos I took at a visit to the Marshalltown Historical Society. I remembered the team photo was in the display, but alas it didn't reveal the border.



Just for kicks, here's a photo of Anson's dad Henry from the Museum. He was the town founder.



So then on a whim I tried the Rucker Archive. I searched "Cap Anson" and came up empty. But then I tried "1869 Marshalltown" and success! The source photo with border:



It's described as a Cabinet in the archive info. No info about whether or not there is photographer/studio info on the back of the card though. Would love to know if there is any or not.

Thanks for making me dig deeper!
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