Please show a card more rare than Wagner (T206)

[DixieBaseball]

Mike's (Freak happy) thread got me to thinking about the word rare and the T-206 Wagner and I couldn't help but think about all those posts we have read over the years about a collector's definition of the word rare. Well, I won't opine on the "rarity" of the T206 Wagner and it's value, but I would love to see a card you have that is more rare or scarce if you will. I am in a playful mood this New Year's Eve and would love to just keep this thread going into 2015 if the board thinks we can do it? It's simple. If you have a card that you know there is less than 75 examples known, please show an example. This will be fun... I will get it started HAPPY NEW YEAR NET 54! :

[Leon]

this should work...

[vthobby]

This is the VERY First Basketball card ever! Card #1!

25 exist in this grade with only 4 higher!

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peace, mike

[birdman42]

I know of only a baker's dozen of these, including a Cobb, Matty, and Lajoie.

Bill

[LKeeler]

This Tinker variation has a pop of one graded by SGC, and mine is the lone example graded by PSA. Take that Hans!

[ZachS]

Jerome, that Street Coupon is a stunner. I love it.

I never really get tired of this one. On a side note, I should probably buy a better scanner...

[Luke]

This must be pretty easy if I can do it, seeing as I mainly collect t206 and a couple of the easier caramel sets.

[paul]

How about these.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

This is the VERY First Basketball card ever! Card #1!

25 exist in this grade with only 4 higher!

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peace, mike

So what's this?

[frohme]

Until recently, I had one that qualified - now in the hands of another board member.

Generally considered unique - authenticity a source of ongoing debate.

[sniffy5]

Here's a 1914 CJ that many feel is the best pose in the set. And while an argument can be made that each 1914 CJ may be more scarce than Honus, here is one that surely is...

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So what's this?

Of course.....I should have said 1st EXCLUSIVE basketball set, sorry.

On a side note, I just talked on the phone with a friend who met Nat when he was a kid, now that is pretty cool!

Nice card also!

peace, mike

[buymycards]

1920 Holsum, none graded by PSA and 3 by SGC.

[x2drich2000]

Last I checked this was 1 of only 3 graded, and by far the worst condition of the 3.



DJ

[gnaz01]

Less than half a dozen of these.......

[Section103]

are quite numerous in example.

[Bicem]

[GoudeyGum]

[deadballfreaK]

Probably less than 20 of these.

[Kenny Cole]

Pretty much all of the 1920's Cuban issues.

[edjs]

Far as I know, this would be one. Anyone know of more than 75?

[ValKehl]

Based on the PSA & SGC pop reports, these are the only known examples of these T214 cards known to exist. And, there may be fewer T214s in existence of all players than there are T206 Wagners in existence. Further, I daresay there are thousands of pre-War cards of which there are fewer than 75 examples known to exist - in other words, there is nothing "rare" about the T206 Wagner - INHO, it a stretch even consider it to be "scarce" in relation to most other pre-War cards!
Val

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Based on the PSA & SGC pop reports, these are the only known examples of these T214 cards known to exist. And, there may be fewer T214s in existence of all players than there are T206 Wagners in existence. Further, I daresay there are thousands of pre-War cards of which there are fewer than 75 examples known to exist - in other words, there is nothing "rare" about the T206 Wagner - INHO, it a stretch even consider it to be "scarce" in relation to most other pre-War cards!
Val

Val,
You nailed it and thus what makes this thread so much fun. We could keep this thread going for 365 more days and still not run out of examples that are more scarce than Wagner. Yes, you are correct... Wagner is in fact not rare at all and I would say is not scarce in population. Just hoarded by folks with lots of money. (Gotta park it somewhere!) It's the most over rated, overhyped, over marketed card ever. Nice card, but nothing special imho. I think the Baltimore Ruth or the Cobb w/ Cobb back should be worth way more than the T-Wags. --- To keep this thread going, here is another one. This time a HOFer... There are easily less than 50 of these...

[arc2q]

Between PSA and SGC there are about 11 of the T213-2 Frank Chance Batting (New York). This is likely the ugliest of them.

[clydepepper]

The only rarer ones than this don't exist:

1904 Allegheny Card Co JJ Warner PSA8.jpg

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by sniffy5

Here's a 1914 CJ that many feel is the best pose in the set. And while an argument can be made that each 1914 CJ may be more scarce than Honus, here is one that surely is...

Great spinoff thread! This should be a great thread to subscribe to...go back and drool whenever you get bored or just want to look at some great cardboard.

Sniffy5...I love that cj. That may be my favorite card/pose of any cj...just fantastical!

[sporteq]

[Sean]

I'm speechless, and that doesn't happen often.

[jcmtiger]

This is rarer than the Wagner, if anyone has one let's see it. Really like to see a Cobb.

larger than a card, but I call it a card. 4 3/4 x 6 3/4.

Joe

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by Sean

I'm speechless, and that doesn't happen often.

Well typed.

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

Well typed.

Need to add a few

[pcoz]

One of only 2 known......

[DeanH3]

[brianp-beme]

Only one of these variations known...

Brian

[Batter67up]

Here is one I have.

[joeadcock]

Only one known

[Leon]

Originally Posted by joeadcock

Only one known

Nice. I am only aware of 3 cards known with that back.

[tedzan]

1 of only 2 (Highest graded)








TED Z
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[kkkkandp]

Lots of Old Judges are...

[cdn_collector]

My uneducated guess is that there are fewer than 50 of each card in each of these sets.

Cheers,

Richard.

[pkaufman]

The only known example.

[Epps]

My favorite card

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[Bicem]

Awesome Chase Paul! I know of at least one person who's envious.

[HRBAKER]

[sniffy5]

Ditto

[frohme]

Nice Smith, Brian! Didn't know that variation existed.

Another in the "total population less than Wags". Haven't seen more than 20 or so with this back. They're on the edge of "carddom" as they're like other theatre cards, but these are on thicker stock, and may have been licensed/re-used later as advertising as they have a 12/31/1925 expiration date.







All the ones I've seen are Series "D", but that sort of implies at least three other series exist ... whether or not they're baseball is a separate issue.

--
Mike

[Runscott]

It's a photo, not a card, but I wanted to play and it's my favorite one-of-one item. Back in 1913, if you had a choice of a T206 Wagner, or a photo that had hung on Honus' wall, it would have been a no-brainer...I think.

12x16 1913 Honus Wagner photo from his estate.

[kdixon]

T213 Type 3 Zach Wheat with factory overprint.

[White Borders]

N694 Risido

[pkaufman]

thanks Jeff P. !