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Old 10-24-2011, 03:24 PM
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Some pretty crazy stuff there, especially on the bottom of the page in the "future lots" section. Anyone heard of them? This doesn't look as blatantly bad as Coaches, but the sheer number of high-end and rare stuff is raising a lot of red flags for me.

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Old 10-24-2011, 03:33 PM
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Garbage.
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:50 PM
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Bombjack,
There is also an eBay seller selling a supposed Christy Mathewson check cut with a Colossal Auctions COA. Mathewson sigs must be falling out of trees!! As David stated, just more crap Most of these signatures look like they were signed with the same fountain pen.
Here is what the Mathewson check cut on eBay looks like:
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:13 PM
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Did you see lot #40, the 1932 Yankees signed team ball? The ball shows significant wear, yet somehow every signature is a gem mint 10 out of 10. Crap.
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Old 10-24-2011, 07:16 PM
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OMG!!! Roaches by another name!! If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, THIS AIN'T NO DUCK!!!! Better you DUCK from this auction! The only sig I saw missing is from the Messiah himself!
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Old 10-24-2011, 07:26 PM
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Their "return policy":

Colossal Auctions certification is all you'll need to ensure the authenticity of your item.

We will issue a COA if applicable, and stand behind every autograph sold. Our money

back guarantee entitles the winning bidder to receive a full refund of the purchase price, after meeting certain criteria. First, a written statement must be submitted by a reputable forensic examiner, stating the reasons why he did not wish to render an opinion as to the authenticity of the submitted item. Next we reserve the right to challenge the findings by submitting the same autograph to another independent third party forensic examiner.



If the forensic examiner we chose agrees that the item is uncertifiable, we will issue the winning bidder a full refund.

If the forensic examiner we chose deems the autograph as genuine, contrary to your examiner, and issues a COA

to that effect, we will accept his opinion as validation that the autograph is genuine. In that case, at our discretion, we will not offer a refund. However, we will offer the new COA free of charge with no fees incurred for the additional authentication service provided. Another option would be to consign it in our next scheduled auction.



We assume no liability on any loss allegedly sustained resulting from a differing opinion by any other independent third party authenticator on any autograph that is deemed genuine by any other third party authenticator.


Translated: Only an absolute moron would bid in their auctions.

EDITED TO ADD that since Coaches Corner seems to be making money and nobody has stepped up to stop them, why should anybody be surprised that others would try to emulate their business model?

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Old 10-24-2011, 08:02 PM
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OMG!!! Roaches by another name!! If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, THIS AIN'T NO DUCK!!!! Better you DUCK from this auction! The only sig I saw missing is from the Messiah himself!
This also looks strangely like the inventory of Mr. Pris*o....
Hmmm..........................
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:06 PM
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Scott-I saw that Mathewson on ebay, which brought me to the Collossal website. Now that I am home and can look at some of the lots more closely, I have to agree that the whole thing is laughable (though that is where I was leaning from the get-go).

A look at the Ed Plank check (yeah, ED PLANK, you see that auto everyday) shows an auto that is not only much darker than any of the other writing on the check, but that has ink blots indicating that is was drawn slowly. Akin to that is the Honus Wagner postcard, which was clearly drawn slowly.

There is also a Frank Chance (among numerous other Christmas cards), multiple Mathewsons and Ansons, as well as about 20 Ruth autos, all with no third party authentication. Whatever you think of PSA/DNA and/or JSA, there is clearly an advantage to selling with these certs, especially so with autos as rare as these. Why don't any of these have said certs? These people are clearly emulating Coaches Corner.

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After laughing at the scans of the 32 Yankees ball I thought "maybe there's a Ruth / Gehrig auto bat" and to my dismay surprise surprise there was one. How do auction houses like this not go to jail?
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