NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-09-2010, 12:34 AM
henson1855 henson1855 is offline
Mike Henson
member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 104
Default Lou Gehrig rookie era game used bat on Ebay

Any thoughts on the Gehrig game used rookie era bat for $180,000 obo on Ebay? The photos show Gehrig using a similar looking bat,but IMO for this kind of money, it would be a tremendous leap of faith that this is the same bat in the photos. http://cgi.ebay.com/1923-25-Lou-Gehr...item3cab6e2f07
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-09-2010, 01:26 AM
sbfinley's Avatar
sbfinley sbfinley is offline
Steven Finley
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Nashville, Tn
Posts: 1,465
Default

Absolutely no chance without provenance.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-09-2010, 01:33 AM
henson1855 henson1855 is offline
Mike Henson
member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 104
Default

Upon futher review, by reading the description a few more times along with the Q and A at the bottom of the page, and certs from TSA? I don't believe Gehrig had any connections to this bat.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-09-2010, 05:43 AM
yanks12025's Avatar
yanks12025 yanks12025 is offline
Brock
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: framingham, ma
Posts: 2,142
Default

The guy is a joke just like his items. You should read the posts over on GUU about his items.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-09-2010, 05:46 AM
John V's Avatar
John V John V is offline
John
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Central South Carolina
Posts: 954
Default

IMO, and sorry if this offends anyone on this board... Whether game-used collector, seller, buyer or authenticator, I have yet to read a single description from a seller and/or authenticator that I buy. Each seems to be written with a stretch, wish, hope and prayer. Serious collectors, please set me straight.
As for the Gehrig listing, the seller's description tactic "the more words the better" hurts more than helps.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-09-2010, 09:19 AM
MVSNYC MVSNYC is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,547
Default

as a collector of game-used bats, i will NOT buy or even consider a bat that has not been seen by John Taube of PSA/DNA. his opinion is paramount in the world of game-used bats (IMO). regarding this particular bat, 'leap of faith' is a good term here. why is there not a close-up shot of the name on the barrel?

Last edited by MVSNYC; 05-09-2010 at 09:08 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-09-2010, 11:56 AM
FUBAR's Avatar
FUBAR FUBAR is offline
Jim D
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 1,000
Default

im not an expert, but this guy sounds like an idiot. Thing i found the funniest, he wants 180k for a bat, but isnt including the pictures...... you gotta pay extra for those!!!
__________________
"There is no such thing as over educated!

It is better to be quiet and thought of as a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-09-2010, 01:02 PM
drc drc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,621
Default

There was lengthy discussion of this bat on the GUU board, and everyone there pretty much agreed it was a bad joke.

Last edited by drc; 05-09-2010 at 01:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-09-2010, 09:59 PM
ctownboy ctownboy is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 972
Default

Reading the eBay description for the bat, it sounds like the seller either works for or is a part owner of TSA Authenticators because there is MORE info (HYPE) about that company than the bat he is trying to sell.

David
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-10-2010, 09:35 AM
steve B steve B is offline
Steve Birmingham
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: eastern Mass.
Posts: 8,099
Default

The Q+A is really funny. His paranoid ramblings are some of the best crummy fiction I've read since weekly world news stopped publishing.

"One of these men has met Gehrig personally recently thats right you read right."

Really! the authenticator actually met Gherig recently?

I also like how he responds to the FBI comment by claiming first ammendment rights, then in the next question claims all fraudsters hide behind the first ammendment.

On the more serious side, what was the reasoning behind taking the rounded end off the bat?

Steve B
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-10-2010, 09:57 AM
nebboy's Avatar
nebboy nebboy is offline
John Hanssen
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 1,076
Default good plot

Nice little soap opera going on with this one. Some good plot twists, but I don't think it will end well!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-10-2010, 11:53 AM
FUBAR's Avatar
FUBAR FUBAR is offline
Jim D
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 1,000
Default

i wonder if he will take a check if i have it certified by Chris Morales....

Im sure he met Gehrig, i seen him the other day at the pub having a beer with Mickey Mantle, Joe Dimaggio and Mother Teresa!!!
__________________
"There is no such thing as over educated!

It is better to be quiet and thought of as a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-10-2010, 03:35 PM
doug.goodman doug.goodman is offline
Doug Goodman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: On the road again...
Posts: 4,616
Default

I often make offers on ebay items, and often my offer is considerably lower than the asking price. Usually, my offer is automatically turned down by the seller, I assume that means that a seller can set a minimum for offers that he / she will think about.

I made an offer of $1 for this bat, and it was not automatically denied.

I don't know what that says, but I find it kind of funny.

Doug
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-10-2010, 03:51 PM
henson1855 henson1855 is offline
Mike Henson
member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 104
Default

If I read the Q and A at the bottom of the page it looks like he turned down an offer for 125K the more I think about this the more laughable it becomes.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-10-2010, 04:10 PM
John V's Avatar
John V John V is offline
John
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Central South Carolina
Posts: 954
Default

Don't look now, there is also a Babe Ruth bat listed with loads of provenance and a COA.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-10-2010, 04:54 PM
drc drc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,621
Default

An eBay seller can set a minimum, so offers lower are automatically denied
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-10-2010, 09:35 PM
ctownboy ctownboy is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 972
Default

If this joker is so darn sure this is a REAL game used, Gehrig rookie year bat, why doesn't he get the guy who authenticated the Babe Ruth bat that sold for $1 million dollars to authenticate his bat? Then why don't he consign the bat to the same auction house that sold the Ruth bat?

The seller lists the Ruth bat as an example of an authenticator having to do some research to PROVE the Ruth bat was real and original.

I mean, if he is THAT confident about what he owns then why not follow the SAME path that ANOTHER person did (and who got rewarded handsomely for doing so)?

My guess is he KNOWS his bat is NOT a Gehrig game used one an jsut wants to HYPE his (TSA) authenticating company as much as possible and get the free publicity.

David

Last edited by ctownboy; 05-10-2010 at 09:37 PM. Reason: forgot to add my name
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-10-2010, 09:37 PM
ctownboy ctownboy is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 972
Default

Oh yeah, when looking at what this seller has listed on eBay (big ticket items authenticated by TSA) and then doing research on what he has actually sold in his completed items, I find it funny that the highest priced item that he has sold has been for $153 dollars.

David
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-12-2010, 03:09 PM
Heritage Sports Heritage Sports is offline
Jonathan Scheier
member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 141
Default

My favorite part (in response to a "potential bidder" question):

Take your time ask any questions that you may have im not rushing here and do you know why its because well to be honest with you $100,000 is not really a lot of money i spend that much monthly and now you know. So im not easily impressed by money i know what true power is and its not money. Do you know what is like to be stuck in the desert for 3 1/2 months without any way of going to the store to buy water and having only one bottle of water for those 3 1/2 months. The same bottle never ran out thats right so please you lol you probably think 2 million dollars is a lot of money or how about 20 million its not enough compared to the true riches i know of. Have a good day.
__________________
Thank you,
Jonathan Scheier
Cataloger - Consignment Director
Heritage Auctions (www.HA.com)
JonathanS@HA.com
1-800-872-6467 X1314

Consign to auction at http://sports.ha.com/consign

Connect with Heritage at http://sports.HA.com/Connect
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-13-2010, 12:04 AM
ctownboy ctownboy is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 972
Default

Mr. Scheier,

That explains everything! He KNOWS about power and he KNOWS this is a Gehrig rookie year game used bat because he is Jesus. I mean, who ELSE could live in a desert for 3 1/2 months with only one bottle of water and that water never runs out.

I bet if we asked him what he ate during those 3 1/2 months he would tell us some story about fishes and loaves......

Last edited by ctownboy; 05-13-2010 at 12:06 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 05-13-2010, 10:55 AM
Exhibitman's Avatar
Exhibitman Exhibitman is offline
Ad@m W@r$h@w
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank
Posts: 13,126
Default

Well, theoretically he could have met Gehrig recently--assuming he'd died and gone to wherever Lou currently resides...
__________________
Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true.

https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/

Or not...
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Baseball - Vintage Wire Photographs - Gehrig, Foxx, Mize + Ends Tonight Oct 14th D. Bergin Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 1 10-14-2009 11:33 AM
Help Requested | 1933 Goudey #92 Lou Gehrig Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 17 04-27-2008 06:42 PM
Low end Lou Gehrig cards on EBAY Archive Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 11-19-2007 09:07 PM
Gehrig rookie card? Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 28 05-02-2005 08:45 AM
1954 Topps Aaron, Banks Rookie Cards on eBay Archive 1920 to 1949 Baseball cards- B/S/T 0 03-23-2005 12:41 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:11 PM.


ebay GSB