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Old 05-30-2013, 04:14 PM
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"Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct."

How was he correct if he sold Peter a recolored Ruth?
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"Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct."

How was he correct if he sold Peter a recolored Ruth?
Except that one....but I am not positive he even knew the card was bad when he sold it, not that it matters. But you are correct. Where I was going with this is that I don't think he had scammed on the board yet..(this altered card withstanding)
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:21 PM
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Is this related, also involved scam out of San Diego?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=san+diego
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:05 PM
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Is this related, also involved scam out of San Diego?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=san+diego
Yes, that's him.

The scammer in this thread is one of the biggest the hobby has ever seen. I gathered much more information about him after two failed scams against me over a year apart. I was the one that had a $40,000 deal in the works, figured it out, and alerted Leon. I've connected him to multiple alts on CU, net54, and blowoutcards. He has been doing this for many years and is now perfectly replicating PSA slabs as well. It's believed that he is operating out of Mexico and will be very hard to stop. He was the ring leader of the Cyrus Stivers case and Stivers never even met him nor knew who he was. He does everything from out of the country and uses other people as pawns, some of them don't even know they're selling fraudulent or stolen cards.
His best scam is putting authentic, trimmed/altered/lower grade cards into fake PSA slabs. These things look scary legit.
If you have ever dealt with this person, it's highly likely what you received was either stolen or counterfeit.
I've connected him to the following scams:


http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/f...fool-me-1.html

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=92552

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...99-robbed.html

All of the following are likely banned or inactive now but here's some of his various alts (I'll update this list as I learn more):
net54 = sportscollector, sam1952
blowoutcards = supercollector2012, expertcollector
CU = Will update this soon.

eBay ids: reedca76, moderncollector2012, encapsulated_icons, top_shelf_cards, highest-grade
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:23 PM
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All of the following are likely banned or inactive now but here's some of his various alts (I'll update this list as I learn more):
net54 = sportscollector, sam1952
blowoutcards = supercollector2012, expertcollector
CU = Will update this soon.

eBay ids: reedca76, moderncollector2012, encapsulated_icons, top_shelf_cards, highest-grade
I did some checking on Sam1952 after another board member accused him and Joey Farino of being one in the same (which they weren't). Sam1952 also has an eBay user id of jasonchicas based in San Diego.
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:28 PM
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Is this related, also involved scam out of San Diego?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=san+diego
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I did some checking on Sam1952 after another board member accused him and Joey Farino of being one in the same (which they weren't). Sam1952 also has an eBay user id of jasonchicas based in San Diego.
I had that one noted too and checked it out. This scammer finds people via Craigslist to go into business with selling cards. It's likely that account was just someone else who was a pawn of his.
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:31 PM
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Yes, that's him.

The scammer in this thread is one of the biggest the hobby has ever seen. I gathered much more information about him after two failed scams against me over a year apart. I was the one that had a $40,000 deal in the works, figured it out, and alerted Leon. I've connected him to multiple alts on CU, net54, and blowoutcards. He has been doing this for many years and is now perfectly replicating PSA slabs as well. It's believed that he is operating out of Mexico and will be very hard to stop. He was the ring leader of the Cyrus Stivers case and Stivers never even met him nor knew who he was. He does everything from out of the country and uses other people as pawns, some of them don't even know they're selling fraudulent or stolen cards.
His best scam is putting authentic, trimmed/altered/lower grade cards into fake PSA slabs. These things look scary legit.
If you have ever dealt with this person, it's highly likely what you received was either stolen or counterfeit.
I've connected him to the following scams:


http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/f...fool-me-1.html

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=92552

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...99-robbed.html

All of the following are likely banned or inactive now but here's some of his various alts (I'll update this list as I learn more):
net54 = sportscollector, sam1952
blowoutcards = supercollector2012, expertcollector
CU = Will update this soon.

eBay ids: reedca76, moderncollector2012, encapsulated_icons, top_shelf_cards, highest-grade
I cant help but wonder if the scammer in question is related to the "Haiku" scam that was set up on Blowout as well. Haiku gave some great deals and was generally accepted as a "good guy" and ripped many off on the Blowout boards. There are epic threads over their discussing this scam but I could not find a name or location. I posted a thread asking for this information.
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:59 PM
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Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/m...merge-172.html
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Old 05-31-2013, 02:50 AM
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If only people used their powers for good instead of this bull...
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:32 PM
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"Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct."

How was he correct if he sold Peter a recolored Ruth?
Re coloring: Doesn't sound like he would know if his Ruth was tainted, anyway. Just my 2cents, but if i read Leon correctly, he was surf fishing before he goes deep sea for a marlin, ergo the 40k deal that was nixed at the 11th hour.
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:36 PM
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Also note that the SK Ty Cobb that this guy was complaining about PSA grading on (Link) also came back as Altered, so it's possible it may have been recolored also. Also sold to a boardmember, but it looks like he accepted a return.
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:56 PM
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I didn't know what I was getting myself into when I joined this forum! We have interesting topics, baseball expertise, how to spot fake cards, drama & suspense and now crime busting!

What's next and should I go out and buy some popcorn?

p.s. Well done Leon, btw!
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Old 05-30-2013, 05:13 PM
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Just some questions about this guy who had an account here:

1 - How long was he a member (ie when was his profile created)?

2 - How many posts did he have?

3 - any clue how many transactions he had before this mess?

Just wondering because I try and look an peoples profile info and try and judge if I should send them money or not. May not be a good way to judge but its all I have come up with so far.

PS - that's the reason I add every person who I have had a good deal with to my sig, that way, I , as well as the person on the other end of my deal gets some "feedback".
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Old 05-30-2013, 05:15 PM
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I didn't know what I was getting myself into when I joined this forum! We have interesting topics, baseball expertise, how to spot fake cards, drama & suspense and now crime busting!

What's next and should I go out and buy some popcorn?

p.s. Well done Leon, btw!
Yea popcorn and some 3D glasses, I heard net54 is going HD3D
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Looking for T205's or anything Babe Ruth...email or PM me if you have any to sell.
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