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Old 06-14-2018, 02:16 PM
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3 1 40701092 GOOD 2 1909-11 T206 Broad Leaf 350 Frank Chance Portrait-Yellow

Grade just posted, only the 2nd PSA card graded. Small light spot on back that has paper loss, otherwise looks like 4+

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Old 06-14-2018, 02:50 PM
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I'm in no way well versed on the t206 set though I have been collecting it for a few years(monster number around 400 or so) and a little while back I wanted to add more disappointment to my life and began a Tolstoi sub set which I am about 70 cards into.....and one thing I have noticed is out of those 70 cards roughly 50 of them have the ghost image of the Tolstoi back showing on the front of the card, far more rate of occurrence than other backs it's seems and it made me wonder....why?

What was different....did they use a different ink that dried slower? Did the guy that moved the sheets just not care about his job anymore? Was the ink used similar to newspaper ink and possibly a collector stacked them together in a humid area and it led to the ink bleeding onto the card behind it, a wet transfer but in an attic? Am I just imagining this whole thing?

I have noticed I have zero ghost images on any card with a red background.
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I do believe that is you started a NeW Thread Wit this as a Topic...
"TOLSTOI BLACK INK QUESTION"

or one to your more liking
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I'm in no way well versed on the t206 set though I have been collecting it for a few years(monster number around 400 or so) and a little while back I wanted to add more disappointment to my life and began a Tolstoi sub set which I am about 70 cards into.....and one thing I have noticed is out of those 70 cards roughly 50 of them have the ghost image of the Tolstoi back showing on the front of the card, far more rate of occurrence than other backs it's seems and it made me wonder....why?

What was different....did they use a different ink that dried slower? Did the guy that moved the sheets just not care about his job anymore? Was the ink used similar to newspaper ink and possibly a collector stacked them together in a humid area and it led to the ink bleeding onto the card behind it, a wet transfer but in an attic? Am I just imagining this whole thing?

I have noticed I have zero ghost images on any card with a red background.

Hi Dpoolem3

Welcome to the club.

Stacking these 108 year old cards together in a humid area (attic or otherwise) would not result in the ink bleeding onto the card behind it.

Would you mind listing these 50 cards in your collection that have this wet-ink "Tolstoi" transfer image on their fronts ?

I have an idea of how this occurred and I'm looking for a pattern in these cards that may tell us why.


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Hi Dpoolem3

Welcome to the club.

Stacking these 108 year old cards together in a humid area (attic or otherwise) would not result in the ink bleeding onto the card behind it.

Would you mind listing these 50 cards in your collection that have this wet-ink "Tolstoi" transfer image on their fronts ?

I have an idea of how this occurred and I'm looking for a pattern in these cards that may tell us why.


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Having a yard sale this morning, as soon as I'm done I will get them out of the safe and post a list of each card and either yes or no in regards to the wst. Realistically it's going to be about half and half probably. I also have 2 Tolstoi's that I bought from separate people that were in the same box at one point because both have a water stain in the exact same area like they were stored upright and water got into whatever they were in and stained both cards(of the same player) in the exact same spot. Be after lunch but I'll have the list posted up by then.
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Great looking card, Tom. Thanks for posting it.


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Having a yard sale this morning, as soon as I'm done I will get them out of the safe and post a list of each card and either yes or no in regards to the wst. Realistically it's going to be about half and half probably. I also have 2 Tolstoi's that I bought from separate people that were in the same box at one point because both have a water stain in the exact same area like they were stored upright and water got into whatever they were in and stained both cards(of the same player) in the exact same spot. Be after lunch but I'll have the list posted up by then.

Hi Dpoolem3

When you get a chance, could you provide a list of only the wet-ink "Tolstoi" transfer cards you have.

It's not necessary to list all your Tolstoi cards.


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Hi Luke

Thanks for posting your BROAD LEAF cards.

I like the Willett....I'm doing an A-B-C-C-D run of his cards.


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