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All but the missing two...
With Leon's ubiquitous Weaver above, these are the other ones I've seen an image of. The 11 accounted ones for in your list, I believe.
Like Ron, and others, I have Benz as a definite, and both Ward Miller (two separate confirmations) and George Mogridge only 1 as the possible other card(s).
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If that's the case then you just took the list to at least 15. That can't be right can it? EDIT - I think I read that wrong... you're saying you have 2 confirmations of ONE Ward Miller card... not 2 separate cards. So the 11 I have listed plus Benz plus Ward Miller OR George Mogridge (13 total cards)? Or 11 plus Benz, Ward Miller, AND Mogridge (14 total cards)? Last edited by ZachS; 07-07-2014 at 09:34 PM. |
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Which would make 14 cards of 13 players, with only the Blackburne as having more than one. Note that the two individual Blackburne images above are the before and after the "cleanup" referenced in certain threads to get a PSA 3... back damage and all.
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4 in the first discovery from Louisiana (1983?) 1 a while later supposedly in NJ (Lange SGC 10 was sold by Mastro in 2007) 8 in the Louisiana Find of 2010 (these 8 are definitely known) I agree that there are definitely TWO Blackburne cards (1 from the first discovery that is in a PSA 3 holder and 1 from the LA Find that is in an SGC 10 holder). You make mention of the Ward Miller find being between the Lange and the LA Find but I've never heard of a card being found outside of the 3 "finds" that I mentioned. I have also been unable to find a picture of the Miller card anywhere but several people have mentioned Miller being found with a Red Cross back. I'm leaning toward the opinion that Miller may have been 1 in the group of 4 found in 1983 along with Leon's Weaver and the PSA 3 Blackburne that had glue removed from the back. I found this quote from Jay Behrens in an article about the LA Find: Quote:
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I didn't know there are two Blackburne for Red Cross back.
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yes there are 2 blackburne...and no JAy behrens can not post here...you can likely contact him via behrens bbq sauce.
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Sorry... didn't know that. I try to stay away from the drama.
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My interpretation only.
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The other aspect was my recollection of the statements about the early find. I don't have access to resources right now, but recall - and it is my recollection only - that it contained all White Sox cards, and was not just Chicago cards. My memory isn't what it once was, so I may be way off base. FWIW, Old Cardboard has it both ways: Quote:
Apparently, even in early 2007, there was knowledge about (or contention of) 6 separate Red Cross backed cards, though there is the same glossing over of Chicago vs WhiteSox even then, as clearly Ward Miller was a Cubbie. All that said, there seems to be a lot of re-quoting and reading in to what was said/written/recalled (and I'm equally guilty), so going back to the source(s) seems appropriate, if at all possible. At least we now know for certain its not just WhiteSox. Still, 13 or 14 cards, either way its a small number, and we have other open items:
Now if you want to talk Anonymous cards (i.e. Fac 3), that's another can of worms... -- Mike
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Nice, Zach.
I recall having read that excerpt before, though I'd not have attributed it to that publication. Times were definitely dirty ... "mistakes" were made ... the rest is history (or fodder for hobby enthusiasts/researchers). Quote:
-- Mike
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