Not sure anyone has seen this? ESPN counterfeiters video Greg Marino

[Mr. Zipper]

I actually appreciated watching him execute the forgeries.

For anyone who has wondered what "deliberate and drawn" means, there ya go.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

I actually appreciated watching him execute the forgeries.

For anyone who has wondered what "deliberate and drawn" means, there ya go.

+1

[seablaster]

Yeesh. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

[RichardSimon]

The crooked ebay sellers who peddled this sh-- were way too many to count.
I can remember tangling with many of them, even an Army Lieutenant, and eventually had to sue one of them, who had slandered me, and beat him out of a nice sum of money.
A ton of Mantle and Williams and Joe D. stuff is still out there and is offered to me regularly by naive (?) owners.
Marino was very weak on the vintage stuff. Though many of those were also sold on ebay at "bargain" prices.

[Leon]

22 well spent minutes...thanks for posting the link to the video

[Huck]

Originally Posted by Leon

22 well spent minutes...thanks for posting the link to the video

Agreed. The sheer volume the team was pumping out is mind boggling. I truly feel for anyone who purchased items they felt were legit. I thank my lucky stars for sticking to my guns and deciding early on to only get items signed in person. Over the years, that stance has softened a bit but not for top tier players.

[GoCubsGo32]

Great video!

Very talented man...his painting were pretty decent. Sad to see his talents go in a bad direction. Mind blowing, the amount of fake crap unloaded into the marketplace.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

I actually appreciated watching him execute the forgeries.

For anyone who has wondered what "deliberate and drawn" means, there ya go.

That was the part of the video that I found to be the most educational. Watching him sign 'Babe Ruth' and seeing the wavering results - just the final stroke of the 'R' was enough, but these balls still show up in the major auction houses repeatedly, with all the characteristics of a 'deliberate and drawn' autograph.

I don't know modern Mantles or Williams', but the 'B' in Ruth is horrible and the Gehrigs are also horrible. I have never understood why anyone bought either of these forgeries. The shellacked balls are equally horrible.