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[ullmandds]

the verdict is in...my ruth was graded A for added color...paypal was kind enough to grant me 1 exception to their rule and file a claim for the full amount minus the grading fee I presume?!?!

If our friend, Den Prak, or whomever is at the receiving end of the paypal account does not respond in 10 days...paypal will pay me the full amount. If he does respond...who knows what may happen?!?!

[brob28]

That's great news Peter - the paypal part

[Cardboard Junkie]

Good Luck with that, Peter. I think you'll be ok. Dave

[brob28]

Thinking of Leon's earlier post that this goes into the 1,000's of cards. The '57 Robinson shown in another post was in a PSA holder, hopefully these were not getting past TPG. On the other hand if these guys were creating their own slabs I sure hope there is a good way to spot them that comes out of this.

[deadballfreaK]

Wow! I'm sure some of those cards could have fooled me. Good thing I'm broke!

[cobblove]

Could it be another WIWAG type deal? I wonder if these guys were getting into Fake PSA slabs and high grade modern stuff. Like Jordan 10s and what not. Will be interesting to see what comes of this. So these were the only transactions he did on here correct? But he did maybe 7 figures? Of what? Whats his ebay id if yall have it?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cobblove

Could it be another WIWAG type deal? I wonder if these guys were getting into Fake PSA slabs and high grade modern stuff. Like Jordan 10s and what not. Will be interesting to see what comes of this. So these were the only transactions he did on here correct? But he did maybe 7 figures? Of what? Whats his ebay id if yall have it?

Please be careful quoting what I say in this thread as fact. Most of it is what I believe, or have been told, and is not substantiated. I was told it was in fact Jordon rookies on the fake cards and maybe some slabs....but again, don't take that as gospel. The reason this is sketchy is because of the amount of fraud, multiple scammers (a ring) and the ongoing investigation. The guy that told me he was Den, whom I spoke to yesterday, is obviously a skilled scam artist. I have got almost all of my info from another board member who I will not name. The Secret Service agent told me very little, of course. I wouldn't expect them to divulge much information. I asked if there were multiple victims, I was told yes. I said, if I were to say on my chat board that these people are bad people would that be true? I was told yes. There really wasn't a whole lot more in that conversation. I then forwarded some emails and offered my help in any way possible. Hopefully we will be able to find out more as it comes out....

Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct. I have to believe it was to set up a bigger, fraudulent deal. There was a 40k one in the works that got stopped at the last hour....thank God. That might have been what they were going for on the board, I don't know.

[mullinsm]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

the verdict is in...my ruth was graded A for added color...paypal was kind enough to grant me 1 exception to their rule and file a claim for the full amount minus the grading fee I presume?!?!

If our friend, Den Prak, or whomever is at the receiving end of the paypal account does not respond in 10 days...paypal will pay me the full amount. If he does respond...who knows what may happen?!?!

Just curious...if PayPal refunds your money, do you get to keep the card? It's still an authentic Ruth, after all.

Regardless, good luck! Sounds like it is going to work out for you.

[deadballfreaK]

Originally Posted by mullinsm

Just curious...if PayPal refunds your money, do you get to keep the card? It's still an authentic Ruth, after all.

Regardless, good luck! Sounds like it is going to work out for you.

Get the refund and keep the card! Offer it to the DA as evidence or keep it! F that crook. What's he gonna do, sue?

[ullmandds]

thanks sean...

[Peter_Spaeth]

"Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct."

How was he correct if he sold Peter a recolored Ruth?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

"Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct."

How was he correct if he sold Peter a recolored Ruth?

Except that one....but I am not positive he even knew the card was bad when he sold it, not that it matters. But you are correct. Where I was going with this is that I don't think he had scammed on the board yet..(this altered card withstanding)

[Peter_Spaeth]

Is this related, also involved scam out of San Diego?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=san+diego

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

"Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct."

How was he correct if he sold Peter a recolored Ruth?

Re coloring: Doesn't sound like he would know if his Ruth was tainted, anyway. Just my 2cents, but if i read Leon correctly, he was surf fishing before he goes deep sea for a marlin, ergo the 40k deal that was nixed at the 11th hour.

[glchen]

Also note that the SK Ty Cobb that this guy was complaining about PSA grading on (Link) also came back as Altered, so it's possible it may have been recolored also. Also sold to a boardmember, but it looks like he accepted a return.

[cobblove]

Thanks leon.
I was trying to just ask a question and thanks for the reply. I wasnt sure exactly what was going on and my questions were only questions and not facts.