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Old 06-10-2019, 09:34 PM
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Thanx for posting David.

Didn't know that Jackie's brother was in the '36 Olympics.

I have a color version of the album but Mack was dissed with respect to pics.

Here's a color card of Jesse finishing the 200m race - Mack is no where in sight even tho he came in 2nd - getting the Silver.

Based on what I just read, Mack qualified by beating out the '32 Olympic gold medalist to make the team.

Mack Robinson is not dissed in this photo. This card shows round 1 heat 12 of the 100m dash. It is not the finals of the 200m dash. In heat 12 Owens finished first with a time of 10.3 seconds. Second was Kichizo Sasaki of Japan with a time of 11.0 seconds which qualified him for the second round. Third was José de Almeida of Brazil with a time of 11.1 seconds. He did not advance. The other runners in this heat were Dieudonné Devrindt of Belgium and Austin Cassar-Torreggiani of Malta. The card shows left to right Owens, Sasaki and de Almeida. The only other Brazilian to compete in the 100m was Oswaldo Domingues and he did not get past the first round (heat 9). In the quarter finals Owens did run against a Japanese athlete, Takayoshi Yoshioka, in heat two, but since no Brazilian advanced past the first round it could not be the quarter finals.

Owens did not run against any other Brazilians. José de Almeida did compete in the 200m, but he ran in heat 1 and did not advance. Owens ran in heat 3.

Additionally, Mack did not beat the 1932 gold medalist in the 200m to make the team. Eddie Tolan, won the gold medal in the 100m and 200m at the 1932 Olympics. By March, 1935 Tolan was competing as a professional when he won the 75yd, 100yd and 220yd events at the World Professional Sprint Championships in Melbourne, Australia. At the 1936 Olympic Track and field trials held at Randall's Island in New York the placings in the 200m were as follows:

1. Jesse Owens
2. Mack Robinson
3. Bob Packard
4. Ralph Metcalfe
5. Foy Draper
6. Harvey Wallender
7. Jack Weiershauser

The first 3 finishers competed in the 200m in Berlin. Packard made it to the quarter finals. Metcalfe won a silver and bronze (100m, 200m) at the 1932 Olympics. He won a silver and gold (100m, 4x100m relay) at the 1936 games. Foy Draper won a gold in the 4x100m relay in Berlin.
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Mack Robinson is not dissed in this photo. This card shows round 1 heat 12 of the 100m dash. It is not the finals. In heat 12 Owens finished first with a time of 10.3 seconds. Second was Kichizo Sasaki of Japan with a time of 11.0 seconds which qualified him for the second round. Third was José de Almeida of Brazil with a time of 11.1 seconds. He did not advance. The other runners in this heat were Dieudonné Devrindt of Belgium and Austin Cassar-Torreggiani of Malta. The card shows left to right Owens, Sasaki and de Almeida. The only other Brazilian to compete in the 100m was Oswaldo Domingues and he did not get past the first round (heat 9). In the quarter finals Owens did run against a Japanese athlete, Takayoshi Yoshioka, in heat two, but since no Brazilian advanced past the first round it could not be the quarter finals.

Owens did not run against any other Brazilians. José de Almeida did compete in the 200m, but he ran in heat 1 and did not advance. Owens ran in heat 3.

Additionally, Mack did not beat the 1932 gold medalist in the 200m to make the team. Eddie Tolan, won the gold medal in the 100m and 200m at the 1932 Olympics. By March, 1935 Tolan was competing as a professional when he won the 75yd, 100yd and 220yd events at the World Professional Sprint Championships in Melbourne, Australia. At the 1936 Olympic Track and field trials held at Randall's Island in New York the placings in the 200m were as follows:

1. Jesse Owens
2. Mack Robinson
3. Bob Packard
4. Ralph Metcalfe
5. Foy Draper
6. Harvey Wallender
7. Jack Weiershauser

The first 3 finishers competed in the 200m in Berlin. Packard made it to the quarter finals. Metcalfe won a silver and bronze (100m, 200m) at the 1932 Olympics. He won a silver and gold (100m, 4x100m relay) at the 1936 games. Foy Draper won a gold in the 4x100m relay in Berlin.
Thanks for stating the actual facts and setting the record straight.
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Thanks for stating the actual facts and setting the record straight.
Glad to do it Brent. Reemtsma Cigarettenfabriken created these cards with the intent that they would be glued into the albums. As such the information on the back was not always accurate. They did Olympic albums for 1924, 1928, 1932 and 1936. The first three were single volumes. The 1936 had two volumes, Band 1 and Band 2. Jack Shea, the American double gold medalist in speedskating at the 1932 Olympics is misidentified on the back of a card that shows him. I have an original press photo that is the same image as the card which gives the correct identity.

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Mack Robinson is not dissed in this photo. This card shows round 1 heat 12 of the 100m dash. It is not the finals
Thanx for the information.

Would never have known this from the album.

Here's the article where I got the info on his qualification:

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Old 06-11-2019, 02:40 PM
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This card shows round 1 heat 12 of the 100m dash.
Did you mean 200m dash for this card?
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Did you mean 200m dash for this card?
No, 100 meters. There were twelve heats in round 1 of the 100m dash. There were only 8 heats in round 1 of the 200m dash. When I wrote my reply the third sentence should have said "It is not the finals of the 200m" rather than "It is not the finals". I could see where that may cause confusion. I just corrected that sentence in my original reply.
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Thanx for the reply Michael.

I have no knowledge of olympics.

When I saw the thread, it reminded me I had this album that I picked up in a lot of WS programs. Had no idea Robinson had a brother in the olympics.

The only card of the 200m race in my album is the one I posted.



The only info I knew was what was on my scan regarding the trials and Mack.

Appreciate the information.
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