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super prints are printed with an Apple Green back. |
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Here are 4 Art Fletchers from this series in varying degrees of condition. The best example is an SGC 30 which is high grade for these. SGC 40 is the highest grade I have of any player, although I have some raw nice ones that could get 40 or 50.
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Want to buy or trade for T213-1 (Bob Rhoades) Other Louisiana issues T216 T215 T214 T213 Etc |
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Are the 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards really T206's ? ....I think so. ....What say you ?
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The Grading Co.'s can be "brutal" grading these 1910 COUPON cards....and, especially PSA. SGC 40 is the highest grade that I, also, have seen of any of these cards. I thought I'd get a nice grade on this Chance. It doesn't have any creases (or subtle problems). When I complained to PSA, they remarked: "that's your opinion, we see it differently". My mistake for submitting it to PSA. . TED Z T206 Reference . |
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It's a good point about the "Super Prints" not necessarily being a separate group in 1910. That's certainly possible. Are there any theories as to how the Super Prints were printed? Seems possible/likely to me that those 6 poses were on their own sheet. That would make it easy for them to be printed with the large number of backs they appear with.
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Nice Evers Ryan!
That Willett is a beauty Ted. I am guessing it would grade a 2.5 or 3.
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Ted, that's awesome. I did not realize that you had found another T213-1 Chance and an upgrade to boot. Way to go. That card is near mint for this series. Here's an SGC 40 Rube Marquard...
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Want to buy or trade for T213-1 (Bob Rhoades) Other Louisiana issues T216 T215 T214 T213 Etc |
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That Marquard is super nice. Also, you have 4 Fletchers? That's insane!
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Are the 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards really T206's ? ....I think so. ....What say you ?
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Rob After you and I did a deal for my original Chance some years ago, I came across this Chance and I could not pass it up, although the price for it was "steep". I was very disappointed with the PSA's grade on it. Eventually, I'll crack it out and submit it to SGC. Gee, you've been hunting for that Rhoades for many years now. It's scarcity appears to be like his T3 card (which is absolutely tough to find). Good luck, and Happy New Year to you. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Are the 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards really T206's ? ....I think so. ....What say you ?
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And interestingly, this configuration coincides with the 48 - the Major League subjects in the 1910 COUPON set. Subsequently, ALC selected the 6 subjects that we refer to as the "Super Prints"**. When ALC included these 6 guys in the 350/460 Series, they Double-Printed them on sheets of T206's. This is evident on numerous surveys of T206 cards. Early 350 Series configuration (circa early Spring 1910) Note * Placement of cards on this configuration are randomly arranged. Note ** Scot Reader's excellent research revealed that these 6 subjects were printed in larger quantities, and with more Tobacco brands than any of the other subjects in the T206 set. In his book titled "Inside T206", Scot identifies these 6 guys as the " Super-Prints ". TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Ted, do you still have the Chance from which you upgraded? If so, let me know if you ever go to sell/trade it.
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Ted....
I believe the type 1's should have been included, but just weren't.....which sucks.....now they have just been classified with the 2's and 3's and grouped together unfortunately
I'm afraid it probably will always stay that way |
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Are the 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards really T206's ? ....I think so. ....What say you ?
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Rob and I traded for my first Chance some years ago. Have a Happy New Year. Quote:
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Are the 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards really T206's ? ....I think so. ....What say you ?
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No kidding.....Pat I think my SOVEREIGN 350 and SOVEREIGN 460 scans of the six super prints in post #68 clearly show the apple green vs. darker green backs, respectively. Here is an excerpt from my thread of which I identified all 66 subjects that were printed with the "apple green" SOVEREIGN 350 backs. Back in 2007, Art Martineau first noted that certain SOVEREIGN 350 cards had a lighter shade of GREEN backs than other SOVEREIGN 350 cards. Initially, this phenomena was mystifying to all of us. By Nov 2007, I had completed my all-SOVEREIGN set, and this enabled me to identify the 66 cards with the apple green backs.. Quote:
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