Best Long Term Investment for $1000???

[frankh8147]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

I would agree it's undervalued, but it's going to stay that way. If you want the best Aaron card, it's a good buy. If you want a card that's going to be the best investment I would stick with high-grade Topps issues of Aaron, Mantle and Clemente - whether they are rookie cards or not.

Out of curiosity, why do you think that? Not to argue but I thought the lower population cards were going up in value because of the PSA population reports.

I've seen steady appreciation from the higher graded cards but when I see the crazy jumps in value on the Cobb rookies, rare back T206's, and even that Michael Jordan Precious Metals auction being discussed in the other thread, it makes me think that Aaron might have some potential.

Disclaimer- I own a Johnston's Cookie Aaron.

[ALBB]

But supply and demand always come into play

true, the Swell Jackie R, the Johnston aaron and super cool and solid cards, and of course less produced then the Topps stuff..... but there is a reason why the 60s Mantles are still wanted...… more collectors want that , then your Red Heart Musial and Dan Dee Snider...

[rats60]

Originally Posted by frankh8147

Out of curiosity, why do you think that? Not to argue but I thought the lower population cards were going up in value because of the PSA population reports.

I've seen steady appreciation from the higher graded cards but when I see the crazy jumps in value on the Cobb rookies, rare back T206's, and even that Michael Jordan Precious Metals auction being discussed in the other thread, it makes me think that Aaron might have some potential.

Disclaimer- I own a Johnston's Cookie Aaron.

Because people collect rookie cards, so they are going to want Aaron's rookie card, 1954 Topps, not a regional. I collect Clemente and there are really tough cards of his that I would rather have than a rookie card, but they will never come close to the RC value. Under valued cards have a tendency to stay under valued. Stick with the main stream issues of Mantle and top Rookie Cards from the era, Jackie Robinson, Willie Mays, Hark Aaron, Roberto Clemente & Sandy Koufax.

In your examples, Cobb rookies - rookie card of one of the game's greatest player, t206 - the hobby's most popular set and Jordan PMG Green - one of the rarest 90's inserts of the biggest name in modern cards. There is nothing under the radar from any of those cards. The only one close are the Cobb PC and that is due to the acceptance of Cobb PCs as RCs when there was no consensus before.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by rats60

I collect Clemente and there are really tough cards of his that I would rather have than a rookie card, but they will never come close to the RC value.

Exactly. How cool (and to me at least still ungodly expensive) are the Kahn's weiner Clemente cards? I'd love to have one. But I would take a nice '55 Topps #164 first every time.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Exactly. How cool (and to me at least still ungodly expensive) are the Kahn's weiner Clemente cards? I'd love to have one. But I would take a nice '55 Topps #164 first every time.

yeah, like many of us...have all the Clemente Cards but missing out on the elusive 1955. I would look up the weiner cards, but I don't want to get started on another tangent.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by frankh8147

Out of curiosity, why do you think that? Not to argue but I thought the lower population cards were going up in value because of the PSA population reports.

I've seen steady appreciation from the higher graded cards but when I see the crazy jumps in value on the Cobb rookies, rare back T206's, and even that Michael Jordan Precious Metals auction being discussed in the other thread, it makes me think that Aaron might have some potential.

Disclaimer- I own a Johnston's Cookie Aaron.

Not saying it won't happen, but I would be surprised. Regional cards have never carried the premium of a choice mainstream RC. I used to own the Johnston's Aaron myself, and wish I had it back. But it was nowhere near as pricey as the '54 Topps back almost 20 years ago, and still isn't today.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by frankh8147

Out of curiosity, why do you think that? Not to argue but I thought the lower population cards were going up in value because of the PSA population reports.

I've seen steady appreciation from the higher graded cards but when I see the crazy jumps in value on the Cobb rookies, rare back T206's, and even that Michael Jordan Precious Metals auction being discussed in the other thread, it makes me think that Aaron might have some potential.

Disclaimer- I own a Johnston's Cookie Aaron.

As much as I love Aaron, he is unknown and not cared about by fans anymore. The baseball fans are mostly idiots and know nothing about the history of the game for the most part. That's the only thing I do care about anymore to be honest.

When he was introduced at Dodger Stadium at the playoff game against the Brewers last year, you could barely hear the crowd cheer for him. IT WAS DISGUSTING. I watched 715 with my parents & I had the 715 poster in my room as a kid. My parents got me a birthday card that played the call of the historic home run when you opened it for my 13th birthday. I played it at my moms funeral and read from it. (yeah it still payed) I saw him as a kid at DS and he always mashed us. The same way my Grandfather told me to watch that guy in the CF, Willie Mays. Then, he proceeded to drop the only fly ball he ever dropped and got picked off first in the same game.

Kids have to take the time to learn about the older players and even though it is so easy, they can't be bothered as they play Fortnite.

We learned about the older players though baseball cards. I hope I'm wrong as I have all the Aaron cards and they still make me feel happy but I'm 57. Baseball card collectors are dying, not increasing, IMHO.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Kids have to take the time to learn about the older players and even though it is so easy, they can't be bothered as they play Fortnite.

We learned about the older players though baseball cards. I hope I'm wrong as I have all the Aaron cards and they still make me feel happy but I'm 57. Baseball card collectors are dying, not increasing, IMHO.

I was in my childhood local card store the other day (while on vacation... none in my current choice of residency). And while they weren't buying baseball cards, there was a pile of kids in there buying basketball cards. I had never seen so many young kids in there. I asked the owner if things were turning around for him, and he said it all happened within the last year. Everything goes in cycles, and eventually, with Betts and Harper and Trout, kids will start hearing about the greats of the game again. They just haven't seen anything like the Sosa / McGwire home run duel. Or the Cal Ripken consecutive games streak. Or even the Three-peat of the late '90s Yankees. But something will come up, it always does. Records were meant to be broken.

I'm 33, and I can remember watching the 1999 All Star game and World Series when they introduced the best of the century team. The reverence that Ted Williams received from the players was unbelievable. It totally made me look at players in a whole different light.

The other issue is that in my neck of the woods, greats of the game aren't coming out for autograph signings anymore. When I was in middle school, there was a card store in Spokane WA that would bring in stars of yesteryear: Don Larsen, Gaylord Perry, Harmon Killebrew, Lou Brock, Maury Wills, Steve Garvey. The last autograph signing in Spokane was a longgggg time ago for Norm Charlton. Kids who don't meet the legends won't know the legends. Traveling to Seattle for an occasional signing is beyond many families' means. It's this way across the country outside major metropolises.