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Sean1125 · #51 02-02-2014, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Your intent presumably was to compensate him for the incremental price he was being charged. If he did not purchase the cards, he isn't out anything, and isn't harmed.

EDIT TO ADD I wonder if we are going to hear the seller's side of this.

Being that David was the one to out the situation - and not Tony - I will refrain from posting more information. The seller was helping someone else out and got in the middle of a nasty situation - there is no burden on him to respond.

I ended up being contacted to purchase these cards (by the ACTUAL seller, not middleman) so I don't see anything wrong with him keeping the money.

vintagetoppsguy · #52 02-02-2014, 08:38 AM

Blackie, the one that offered the cards, was doing so one someone else's behalf. He has no fault here. The owner of the cards, Michael Bowe, is not a member here. He is a complete slimeball.

You have a nice way of spinning things, Sean, so they sound good to others who may read this. Yes, Michael contacted you, but only after you made your higher offer to Blackie and after you were told the cards were already sold. Blackie felt compelled to let Michael know the higher offer, but he was only the middle man.

Keep spinning things, Sean, and I'll just keep correcting you.

Sean1125 · #53 02-02-2014, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Blackie, the one that offered the cards, was doing so one someone else's behalf. He has no fault here. The owner of the cards, Michael Bowe, is not a member here. He is a complete slimeball.

You have a nice way of spinning things, Sean, so they sound good to others who may read this. Yes, Michael contacted you, but only after you made your higher offer to Blackie and after you were told the cards were already sold. Blackie felt compelled to let Michael know the higher offer, but he was only the middle man.

Keep spinning things, Sean, and I'll just keep correcting you.

Stick your nose somewhere else please.

Had you not spoken I think cam and I would have had this amicably resolved, as we did, and nothing would have come of it.

I would say the same exact to you - in every situation I've ever seen you post in you spin the turn of events negatively regardless of what actually took place.

Michael contacted me SEVERAL DAYS LATER not during the situation. Your facts are wrong and you are wrong.

This will be my final post on this thread, let the readers decide what they want.

ullmandds · #54 02-02-2014, 08:57 AM

I've made my decision!

Section103 · #55 02-02-2014, 09:26 AM

I just dont see any reason why such simple transactions should ever become complicated. If they do, something is wrong.

vintagetoppsguy · #56 02-02-2014, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean1125

Stick your nose somewhere else please.

Sean, I would have never said anything about the situation, but I felt your hypocrisy was overboard. You start a thread about a member not following through on a $50 transaction that he committed to, yet you interfere in a $1200 transaction so that another seller could follow through on a transaction he committment. I guess if it benefits you, it's okay?

ullmandds · #57 02-02-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Section103

I just dont see any reason why such simple transactions should ever become complicated. If they do, something is wrong.

Yes...agreed!

glchen · #58 02-02-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Not trying to get in the middle of this, but is everyone denying that that they have never offered a seller more money for an item that they said was sold??

I don't think I've done this before, but when negotiating w/ a seller which has multiple other buyers in the mix, I've definitely asked a seller to give me a chance beat the best offer he gets.

slidekellyslide · #59 02-02-2014, 10:09 AM

Can someone give the precise timeline of events that took place here? Did Sean interfere with this sale? Neither guy ended up with the cards so what happened?

Sean1125 · #60 02-02-2014, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Can someone give the precise timeline of events that took place here? Did Sean interfere with this sale? Neither guy ended up with the cards so what happened?

You will find the answers to your questions if you read through the thread...

Peter_Spaeth · #61 02-02-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Can someone give the precise timeline of events that took place here? Did Sean interfere with this sale? Neither guy ended up with the cards so what happened?

I think it's something like this although I could be wrong.

Owner asks Blackie to sell cards on 54.

Cambb makes Blackie offer that is accepted.

Sean contacts Blackie, learns of deal, (or vice versa) and makes higher offer.

Blackie feels obligated to communicate higher offer to owner.

Owner instructs Blackie to take higher offer or get more from Cambb.

Cambb finds out what happened, rips Sean.

Sean backs down, sends Cambb the difference, but Cambb refuses deal at higher price but keeps Sean's money anyway.

slidekellyslide · #62 02-02-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think it's something like this although I could be wrong.

Owner asks Blackie to sell cards on 54.

Cambb makes Blackie offer that is accepted.

Sean contacts Blackie, learns of deal, (or vice versa) and makes higher offer.

Blackie feels obligated to communicate higher offer to owner.

Owner instructs Blackie to take higher offer or get more from Cambb.

Cambb finds out what happened, rips Sean.

Sean backs down, sends Cambb the difference, but Cambb refuses deal at higher price but keeps Sean's money anyway.

Thanks, that's how I read it too...So Sean did interfere in a BST transaction.

cammb · #63 02-02-2014, 11:08 AM

Pete, everything you stated happened in that exact timeline. I have to clear up one thing . I took Sean's money because I was originally offered it to back out of the deal. I didn't take to make up the difference in the asking price. I am of the opinion if a seller posts an asking price and that price is met then it should be sold at that price regardless if the seller received another price. This is not an auction but in a sense, a buy it now.

Sean1125 · #64 02-02-2014, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Thanks, that's how I read it too...So Sean did interfere in a BST transaction.

You seem to be conveniently forgetting that the person who the issue was with stated himself it was taken care of.

slidekellyslide · #65 02-02-2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean1125

You seem to be conveniently forgetting that the person who the issue was with stated himself it was taken care of.

It was "taken care of", but it sure doesn't seem like he's happy about it. You still interfered with a BST transaction.

Sean1125 · #66 02-02-2014, 11:30 AM

Based on PM's he seems fine to me.

itjclarke · #67 02-02-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean1125

I have no idea what card you are talking about. No, I did not end up with this card or even make an offer on it.

You definitely made an offer on on the Chamberlain by way of an "I'll take it" post. I wouldn't have suspected you of anything or asked you about this (though do I suspect someone came in and made a higher offer after mine), until I read about the Robinson/Mays story.

MyGuyTy · #68 02-02-2014, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I believe if I saw something that was sold I'd ask the new owner if he wanted to make a quick flip for a profit.

I've done this as well, even sold cards that I recently bought because somebody else really needed the card. I have never and will never try to go behind someone's back to weasel a card they're about to buy.