Josh Gibson Autographed Jersey Lee Trythall Coach's Corner

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Never.

I didn't know if you got burnt by them or what your motivations were. You obviously have a disdain hate for Coach's Corner and it's almost got to the point that you're beating a dead horse.

I don't like that they sell forgeries as much as the next guy, but when you constantly post their stuff on this autograph forum, it has become depressing and takes away the enjoyment/love that people have for this hobby.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Read the item description on this one; it is very revealing.

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[David Atkatz]

Basta! They're all forgeries on C's C. Just post the auction URL, and be done with it.

[39special]

Being new to the autograph world,I have a stupid question.
How do they get away with selling this crap?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by 39special

Being new to the autograph world,I have a stupid question.
How do they get away with selling this crap?

That is definitely the $64,000 question.

[rjackson44]

how do they get away with this omg...

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by mschwade

I didn't know if you got burnt by them or what your motivations were. You obviously have a disdain hate for Coach's Corner and it's almost got to the point that you're beating a dead horse.

I don't like that they sell forgeries as much as the next guy, but when you constantly post their stuff on this autograph forum, it has become depressing and takes away the enjoyment/love that people have for this hobby.

Then don't read it. This is what I do. This is what I've done for the past eight years or so. I want them to know that I am not going away.

That's why many of the members here wanted a separate autograph forum.

If this depresses you, then please don't read it. I would hate to contribute to your depression.

The main reason I do this, is because, I, too, love the hobby.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Then don't read it. This is what I do. This is what I've done for the past eight years or so. I want them to know that I am not going away.

LOL! Like they give a s#*t!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

LOL! Like they give a s#*t!

I think I misunderstood this comment., My apologies

[bluebirds]

I too, like just about everyone on this board, have no use for CC. I too am also tired of Mr. Williams depressing attacks. Every time he says something about CC he brings out some current or much older piece of garbage that they foisted on the public with their phony auctions.
Bitching is fine Mr. Williams but all it does is let off steam with no positive end result. Why don't you DO SOMETHING POSITIVE like start a class action lawsuit or contact government agencies in PA or the Feds and have them go after them? You'd find plenty of support on this board.
You seem obsessed with them so why not take real action and get rid of those parasites and make a real contribution instead of your serio-"comedic" attacks that have accomplished little if anything?

Martin Green

[thetruthisoutthere]

Here are a couple of beauties.

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[Mr. Zipper]

I consider Chris a friend. He has a huge heart and tremendous passion.

There is a method to the madness. Recent posts keep the usual suspects at the top of Google search results. There is always someone to whom this is new information. Just maybe, Chris is saving a new collector from making a mistake that would drive him or her from the hobby forever.

Plus, it lets the usual suspects know they are being watched and we won't just go away quietly.

If someone finds the drumbeat depressing, then just bypass the thread. It's clearly marked. The only thing I find depressing is that some of the usual suspects aren't in jail yet.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

I consider Chris a friend. He has a huge heart and tremendous passion.

There is a method to the madness. Recent posts keep the usual suspects at the top of Google search results. There is always someone to whom this is new information. Just maybe, Chris is saving a new collector from making a mistake that would drive him or her from the hobby forever.

Plus, it lets the usual suspects know they are being watched and we won't just go away quietly.

If someone finds the drumbeat depressing, then just bypass the thread. It's clearly marked. The only thing I find depressing is that some of the usual suspects aren't in jail yet.

I agree with this line of thinking. If someone finds a rare auto at coach's corner and does a search, they NEED to find threads like this one that are complaining about the crap forgeries that are being sold there.

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

I agree with this line of thinking. If someone finds a rare auto at coach's corner and does a search, they NEED to find threads like this one that are complaining about the crap forgeries that are being sold there.

People can start blogs to get the same results.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by bluebirds

I too, like just about everyone on this board, have no use for CC. I too am also tired of Mr. Williams depressing attacks. Every time he says something about CC he brings out some current or much older piece of garbage that they foisted on the public with their phony auctions.
Bitching is fine Mr. Williams but all it does is let off steam with no positive end result. Why don't you DO SOMETHING POSITIVE like start a class action lawsuit or contact government agencies in PA or the Feds and have them go after them? You'd find plenty of support on this board.
You seem obsessed with them so why not take real action and get rid of those parasites and make a real contribution instead of your serio-"comedic" attacks that have accomplished little if anything?

Martin Green

+1!

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by bluebirds

I too, like just about everyone on this board, have no use for CC. I too am also tired of Mr. Williams depressing attacks. Every time he says something about CC he brings out some current or much older piece of garbage that they foisted on the public with their phony auctions.
Bitching is fine Mr. Williams but all it does is let off steam with no positive end result. Why don't you DO SOMETHING POSITIVE like start a class action lawsuit or contact government agencies in PA or the Feds and have them go after them? You'd find plenty of support on this board.
You seem obsessed with them so why not take real action and get rid of those parasites and make a real contribution instead of your serio-"comedic" attacks that have accomplished little if anything?

Martin Green

Why are you assuming that he has not taken action?
And you get us a list of people who have bought CC stuff and want their money back and Chris and I will help start a class action lawsuit.
You cannot just file a class action lawsuit unless you have lost money. You need grounds to file a lawsuit.
And considering that much of what CC is now selling is being bought for resale, I would think it would be difficult to find people who want to sue them.
Martin - You got a list of those who have been burned by CC and want their money back? I would love to help initiate that lawsuit you talk about.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Why are you assuming that he has not taken action?

Do you mean action other than offering up meaningless challenges on YouTube?

[GrayGhost]

To try and add some levity to this mess, that Armstrong capsule photo musta been signed when Neil was in space spinning around

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Then don't read it. This is what I do.

I believe your intentions to be good, but I think you might be doing more harm than good at this point.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by mschwade

I believe your intentions to be good, but I think you might be doing more harm than good at this point.

Tell me, Matt, what further harm am I doing. Please explain.

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Tell me, Matt, what further harm am I doing. Please explain.

I've already stated it... "takes away the enjoyment/love that people have for this hobby"

I used to love this board and visited it multiple times a day until the feuding and constant Coaches Corner bashing flooded the board. When the autograph sub-forum was created, the mood changed and things seem to be a little more positive (momentarily). Frankly, I was hoping the Coaches Corner forgery posts had ended and apparently they haven't.

IMO, I feel like your posts only cast dark clouds above this hobby. That's where I think you're intentions are good, but doing more harm. Just my .02

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by mschwade

I've already stated it... "takes away the enjoyment/love that people have for this hobby"

I used to love this board and visited it multiple times a day until the feuding and constant Coaches Corner bashing flooded the board. When the autograph sub-forum was created, the mood changed and things seem to be a little more positive (momentarily). Frankly, I was hoping the Coaches Corner forgery posts had ended and apparently they haven't.

IMO, I feel like your posts only cast dark clouds above this hobby. That's where I think you're intentions are good, but doing more harm. Just my .02

Then don't read it, Matt. If the title of a new thread reads "Coach's Corner" then bypass it, Matt.

This thread contains the words "Coach's Corner." Why did you elect to read it?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by mschwade

I've already stated it... "takes away the enjoyment/love that people have for this hobby"

I used to love this board and visited it multiple times a day until the feuding and constant Coaches Corner bashing flooded the board. When the autograph sub-forum was created, the mood changed and things seem to be a little more positive (momentarily). Frankly, I was hoping the Coaches Corner forgery posts had ended and apparently they haven't.

IMO, I feel like your posts only cast dark clouds above this hobby. That's where I think you're intentions are good, but doing more harm. Just my .02

Matt, there are two members (now it's three...not you, Matt) here on Net54 that I placed on my "Ignore" list. Their comments are no longer visible to me if they post a comment. Why don't you put me on your "Ignore" list. Problem solved.

[thecatspajamas]

Personally, I don't have a problem with 1 thread a month highlighting the newest and most ridiculous forgeries. I find it more entertaining than depressing since, as others point out so often, nobody on this board takes them seriously anyway.

Overlooking one thread a month is a small price to pay to keep these warnings active where potential bidders can stumble across them before getting burned. More newbies come online every day, and if their first lesson is something other than getting burned on a purchase straight out of the gate, maybe they will stick around long enough to become educated collectors.

If it were a separate thread for each item so that the board was flooded with anti-CC posts, I would feel differently. But that's not what's being done.

[Mr. Zipper]

Occasionally I am asked to render an opinion on items very similar to this. Typically the person bought it from some antique store or a "mall gallery" thinking it must be real because it's coming from a store in the mall and it has a official looking authentication letter.

It's never fun delivering the bad news. And the people who bought it from the "gallery" didn't get it at the absurdly low CC price... they paid thousands for an elaborately framed and matted fake.

[sports-rings]

How exactly is he doing more harm than good?

[vintagechris]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Then don't read it. This is what I do. This is what I've done for the past eight years or so. I want them to know that I am not going away.

That's why many of the members here wanted a separate autograph forum.

If this depresses you, then please don't read it. I would hate to contribute to your depression.

The main reason I do this, is because, I, too, love the hobby.

I am of the opinion that the more Chris and others post of this stuff, the more it will come up in google searches and things like that. I say keep doing it.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by vintagechris

I am of the opinion that the more Chris and others post of this stuff, the more it will come up in google searches and things like that. I say keep doing it.

+1

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by mschwade

I didn't know if you got burnt by them or what your motivations were. You obviously have a disdain hate for Coach's Corner and it's almost got to the point that you're beating a dead horse.

I don't like that they sell forgeries as much as the next guy, but when you constantly post their stuff on this autograph forum, it has become depressing and takes away the enjoyment/love that people have for this hobby.

And yes, I have deep disdain for people like Ted Taylor, Drew Max, Chris Morales, Lee Trythall, and Scott Malack. There are a few others, but I want this thread to stay on track (Coach's Corner Auctions).