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Posted By: Tim
You don't know anything about most of us, so you don't know who is suffering and who isn't. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
What's going on here? |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
<< It's more about being able to say I was right and you were wrong, rather than actually wanting to see the country be successful.>> |
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Posted By: Jim VB
You know what David, regardless of where you stand in this election, the lunatics on the fringes are the ugly ones. Disagree all you want, with anyone you want. But don't make it personal. Every thread you contribute to turns into a personal attack on someone. Those kind of thoughts and feelings belong on another kind of message board. |
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Posted By: LetsGoBucs
Jim and his ilk certainly did cause this crises |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
The only possible response to Jim's hateful "Barack Hussein Obama" diatribes is personal. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Jim- you said exactly what I have been feeling, and I think I've had an epiphany. |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
<<But, guess what. The people that bought 200K, 300K, 500K, etc houses with no money down, with promises of 2% interest (and don't worry you can refinance when your house is worth 40% more in two years), or by lying on their mortgage applications also deserve a lot of blame.>> |
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Posted By: Jim VB
Barry, |
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Posted By: Jerry Hrechka
Quite frankly, the bankers, investment houses, financial ministers et. al. do not understand the financial markets. If they did they would be able to place an accurate valuation on the complex derivates that have been poisoned by the mortgage defaults. |
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Posted By: Jim VB
David, |
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Posted By: Richard Simon
How many of the rabid right, on the airwaves and the net, who call him Barack Hussein Obama would use his middle name if it was Steven? |
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Posted By: Jerry Hrechka
Jim VB |
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Posted By: LetsGoBucs
Can you really blame the uneducated and financially unsophisticated people that believed them? |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
You're right about that Jim. I'm no expert in financial matters. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
I've just got one question: who let the Unabomber out? |
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Posted By: Jim VB
Richard, |
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Posted By: Steve
Lets go Bucs makes a lot of sense. |
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Posted By: Richard Simon
JimVB - I understood what you had said, I just wanted to get my point across that we don't have a true conservative administration now or for the past 8 years. |
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Posted By: Jim VB
Jerry, |
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Posted By: Jim VB
Steve, |
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Posted By: Ryan Christoff
Jeff, |
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Posted By: Jim VB
Ryan, |
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Posted By: Tim Newcomb
Although I don't approve of a lot of David's comments, the right-wingers have repeatedly (habitually) said much more personal and callous things than he has. Now they're whining about the decibel level of his rhetoric?? Give me a break. |
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Posted By: Bob
Last night John McCain called upon his supporters to quit making incredibly stupid, lying, and offensive remarks about Obama. I think he is attempting to lock the barn door after the cows have left. He once was gleeful about Palin's ability to be an "attack dog" and how she could turn on the far right troglydites of the party to make drooling, mindless and cruel statements about Obama, mouthing the lies to somehow give them credibility. Well you know what folks, it didn't work. Do you remember this famous line: "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." The haters are shocked that their venom isn't sticking this time and the polls reflect that American voters are more and more turned off by the bile espoused by the "good old boys." Thank God! |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
"Who let the unibomber out?" |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
I have no strong problems with David's comments, even if I don't agree with all of them. And Jim, David was responding to a specific quote claiming that borrowers had to share "a lot" of the blame for this mess when you called him out of his depth, then you want to list credit swaps, margin calls etc. as causes and that actually bolster his position--perhaps you should assess your own depth. |
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Posted By: Jim VB
<<David was responding to a specific quote claiming that borrowers had to share "a lot" of the blame for this mess when you called him out of his depth>> |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
um, yes--here's his exact post: |
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Posted By: Jim VB
David's response - <<Those people were preyed upon by the lenders who knew and didn't care one whit that the loans would be defaulted upon. >> |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
I see neither the words "only" nor "all" in David's post. Seems to me that was your assumption, as you went on to call him out of his depth. I didn't read his post that way at all--and I don't think I'm out of my depth. |
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Posted By: Jim VB
If you can read his post and NOT see it as blaming the lenders, then, unfortunately you are out of your depth. |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
As and between the two, he did indeed believe the lenders were to blame. He called Bull. And he is right. |
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Posted By: Jim VB
I'm glad you finally agree with me. |
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Posted By: Glyn Parson
I must be the luckiest man alive. The way some are dooming and glooming on here. Ive been a fulltime dealer of vintage baseball cards since 1990 (with the exception of the year I worked at SGC) and I can tell you Ive had my BEST month ever retailing and wholesaling cards. "Goes to show you don't ever know." Can we stop all this political fighting, nobody ever changes anyone elses minds in these exchanges. Lets get back to the cards. |
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Posted By: 1880nonsports
of "Joe six pack" is - what box for ethnicity would Joe check on his census since he seems to be a focal point of some sort? I too have read each and every thread. I'm still scared of maveric's and dreamers and see myself as a centrist as well. People died to give me the right to vote for president. I have to chose the one I feel best represents my views. I only wish more of the posters here agreed with me on who that should be |
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Posted By: Mark Evans
This is an enlightening thread, as it reflects the views of bright, passionate folks on important issues of the day, albeit somewhat unrelated to vintage cards. The hostility and personal attacks, however, should cease. They are unnecessary and just demean the Board. Mark |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
<<But this thread actually has been educational for me regarding theoretical physics. I learned that none of my children will be allowed to study a subject that might lead to such an empty and bitter life like what awaits the future theoretical physics professors of the world. |
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Posted By: Tim
The problem I have with this thread and politics today as a whole is that there is no middle ground. Both the left and the right have become so entrenched in their views that there is no true debate anymore. Both sides have become so inundated with talking points that back up their argument that they are no longer willing to listen to opposing opinion and give it any consideration. |
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Posted By: sportcollectorsdisplay.com
People who have the high end stuff don't need to sell. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Back to the Hispanic vote issue in the three western states, the Hispanics will make up a larger percentage of the voters than ever before. This may not be as a result of greater growth in the Hispanic population but through efforts by Acorn and others to increase the Hispanic turnout and get them to the polls. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
right-wingers have repeatedly (habitually) said much more personal and callous things than he has. Now they're whining about the decibel level of his rhetoric?? Give me a break. |
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Posted By: LetsGoBucs
It is fundamental common sense that people don't lend money unless they're confident it will be repaid. |
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Posted By: PC
I hope that mainstream Democrats will not resort to race-baiting as a form of argument. |
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Posted By: Bruce Dorskind
Certainly this is the song they should play during the 7th Inning stretch |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
<<Back to the Hispanic vote issue in the three western states, the Hispanics will make up a larger percentage of the voters than ever before. This may not be as a result of greater growth in the Hispanic population but through efforts by Acorn and others to increase the Hispanic turnout and get them to the polls.>> |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
"How dare these organizations try to ensure that everyone eligible exercise their franchise!" |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Deportation of all illegal immigrants by 2012? |
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Posted By: Bruce Dorskind
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Posted By: David Atkatz
Hey, Jeff! Gettin' on the Bruces' bandwagon? |
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