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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: Tom A
If a low quality common card is graded, does the fact that it is in a PSA/SGC holder (or even a Topps T206 holder) increase its sale value? |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: ty_cobb
The value of T206s in Topps holders |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: David Vargha
Like PSA, SGC and BGS are all a good thing in the land of the unscrupulous. Grading does not "create" value; rather it legitimizes it. Cards in EX condition or below often have no greater "value" in the marketplace, whether slabbed or unslabbed. Their NM/MT or better slabbed counterparts sell for far more than the unslabbed cards do. |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: Julie Vognar
If the card is rare or questionable, or even just 19th century, many people prefer to get these graded as authentication (recommend GAI or SGC) of the cards legitimacy. These two companies tend to grade 19th century stuff very low, but nobody cares! Lord knows what the Gypsy Queen Pud Galvin GAI2 finally went for in the S.C.P. auction; I quit at 1434. Leon wrote an interesting article about getting really rare cards graded by SGC in July, 1901 (19thcenturyonly.org). |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: Dr.Koos
....why don't we back it up about 5 or 6 pages. I may have been dreaming but wasn't there an entire thread on here that started with a seller's batch of Ebay auctions featuring cards that even HE admitted were trimmed so badly, they were still screaming from the anaesthesia-less amputations, ALL GRADED BY PSA. The cards were such dwarves, that much was so painfully obvious, that someone suggested the holders were changed. |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: ty_cobb
While I believe the intent of grading companies |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: jay behrens
possibly true, most almost as likely a story to try and pass off an altered card as having one time been being graded. |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: Julie Vognar
Mark Macrae, wandering around his own convention, saying to people he knew" that guy over there is selling xeroxed Colgan's" over and over. wE TOOK TURNS GOING TO HAVE A LOOK, AND TELLING THE SELLER: "hEY, THOSE CARDS AREN'T CARDS; THEY'RE XEROXES!" The guy would answer that he bought them as originals, so he was selling them that way. |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: David
My guess is that NASA and AAA are holdering vingtage clippings rather than modern xeroxes or similar reprints. I've never seen one of the items in person, so this is my guess and won't make an issue if someone disagrees. The significance is that, as some of these old guides (not the Funk & Wagnal dictionary) are expensive, the profit margin would not be as momentous-- though a sale of a single $400 Joe 'Mike Mitchel' Jackson would more than pay for the price of the original Spalding or Reach Guide (My guess is these guides sell around $100-$170 each). If they were selling modern reprints, it would be easy to shut them down. Even eBay won't allow someone to sell Xerox counterfeits. |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: Bruce Moreland
Of course grading creates value, if the grade says something good about the card. It's the same kind of thing as taking a used car to a mechanic -- the knowledge that the car is in decent shape might be worth more than the cost of the inspection. |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: Bruce Moreland
I don't doubt that the stuff is exactly as described. They get old guides and cut them up. |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: Bruce Moreland
"possibly true, most almost as likely a story to try and pass off an altered card as having one time been being graded." |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: Mike Williams
it should be no surprise to anyone here that the T206 Green Cobb is being sold by John Spencer. Since a scan of the previous PSA 4 holder isn't provided, I too would be skeptical of a card described as such. Having said that, I know John well....and I do believe the PSA story. Quite honestly, if John wanted to deceive, the PSA story would have been ommitted with no mention of "altered". Let's face it, this story is more of a black eye for the card than not. Whenever a card comes to eBay with a "story", knowing the integrity of the seller is key! |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: Julie Vognar
The description of Mark Macrae wandering around talking about xeroxed Colgan's applied to a convention at the Coluseum, not his own convention at St. Leander's Chruch in San Leandro. Where, he said, he would have expelled the guy, permanently. |
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Does slabbing create value?
Posted By: Lee Behrens
I personally only grade cards I am willing to sell that I feel will grade at least VG/Ex. I am like yourself where I try to get the cards as reasonable as possible, I spend alot of time watching ebay so I have a good idea wheree to stop my bidding if I need to make money in the future. Almost all the cards I have had graded and sold have gained me a nice profit. My best example is a T206 Willis that I paid $30 for that graded SGC 50 VG/EX and received $150 for in an auction. I once bought a T206 PSA 2 for $14 and on the reasale I got $25. |
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