NYPL Peck & Snyder Red Stockings Card

[shernan30]

Great article. Leon, thanks for everything you do for Net54 and the collecting community.

[Brian Van Horn]

Leon,

You did the right thing.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by shernan30

Great article. Leon, thanks for everything you do for Net54 and the collecting community.

+1!

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by shernan30

Great article. Leon, thanks for everything you do for Net54 and the collecting community.

Originally Posted by glchen

+1!

+2

[wonkaticket]

I commend Leon for the final choice he made.

However I don't want a rose colored view of history on this. Leon was aware of issues and tried to sell the card anyway. Then when caught every angle was tried by Leon. From name calling, playing dumb, thread locking, playing the victim, getting in peoples faces, PMs to the very people he was calling names, to offline political chats.

The actions of Leon regarding this card were far from that of a hobby player who claims to do more than 99% in terms of fighting fraud than the rest of us. It should have never taken hobby collectors like myself and others to bring this to the attention of this board. It was disappointing then and looking back it still is.

However in the end a treasure was returned to the institution where its original owner wanted it to remain. That's about the best one could hope for.

Cheers,

John

[Leon]

You really don't know how sick and tired I am of hearing this absolute made up absurdity of yours. The only angles are 100% your imagination taking over. There is no rosy colored anything. I never got in anyone's face either. That was more made up crap that I wasn't commenting on before. I had a conversation, it got heated on the other side and I walked away. There was no vulgarity, no puffing of chest on my side...none of that.
You are just plain wrong....nothing more and nothing less. The best one could hope for is you understanding the truth and reality. But it doesn't seem that will happen. Carry on, I am sure you can make some more stuff up.
ps...I should add I feel it was in very poor taste to go after me, for completely erroneous reasons, during the sale of my collection. You tried hard to hurt the sale. Very poor taste indeed.

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

I commend Leon for the final choice he made.

However I don't want a rose colored view of history on this. Leon was aware of issues and tried to sell the card anyway. Then when caught every angle was tried by Leon. From name calling, playing dumb, thread locking, playing the victim, getting in peoples faces, PMs to the very people he was calling names, to offline political chats.

The actions of Leon regarding this card were far from that of a hobby player who claims to do more than 99% in terms of fighting fraud than the rest of us. It should have never taken hobby collectors like myself and others to bring this to the attention of this board. It was disappointing then and looking back it still is.

However in the end a treasure was returned to the institution where its original owner wanted it to remain. That's about the best one could hope for.

Cheers,

John

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

I commend Leon for the final choice he made.

However I don't want a rose colored view of history on this. Leon was aware of issues and tried to sell the card anyway. Then when caught every angle was tried by Leon. From name calling, playing dumb, thread locking, playing the victim, getting in peoples faces, PMs to the very people he was calling names, to offline political chats.

The actions of Leon regarding this card were far from that of a hobby player who claims to do more than 99% in terms of fighting fraud than the rest of us. It should have never taken hobby collectors like myself and others to bring this to the attention of this board. It was disappointing then and looking back it still is.

However in the end a treasure was returned to the institution where its original owner wanted it to remain. That's about the best one could hope for.

Cheers,

John

GREAT POST!!! Glad I am not the only one who feels that way.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bnorth

GREAT POST!!! Glad I am not the only one who feels that way.

You and anyone that believes this is just wrong. Had I known there was a stamp I would have addressed it the same way I did when I found out. Within a few hours I had called the NYPL and authorities. So if ya'll think I knew for any time before that, and didn't address it., there is no way I can convince you. But it's not the truth. I knew of the stamp identification the same time the rest of the board did. Those are the facts. Believe what you want to.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Leon

So if ya'll think I knew for any time before that, and didn't address it., there is no way I can convince you. But it's not the truth. I knew of the stamp identification the same time the rest of the board did. Those are the facts. Believe what you want to.

So the FBI agent never told you there was a stamp on your card, or that there were potential issues with it? So in that video of you talking to Scott you had no idea there was a possible stamp? Even though you mention the NYPL, stamp, FBI and JC's card in the video where you are unaware you're being filmed.

Your willing to say the FBI agent returned your card and said there are no markings to be seen nothing to look into the card is clear? So from 2014 to the time of listing you had no knowledge whatsoever there were any potential issues with this card.

Then why do you say things to the contrary in PMs to me and in the video?

Amazing coincidence then that HA mentioned "library stamp" as the first possibility for the mark on the back of the card....because nobody knew it was there least of all you...until that day the topic was brought up on Net54 and Hauls of Shame.

John

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by shernan30

Great article. Leon, thanks for everything you do for Net54 and the collecting community.

And another +1