Baseball's Greatest Living Player...who is it?

[Touch'EmAll]

Its just a shame, totally not right, that Baseball and/or Football Hall of Fame does not put in Bo. think about it…hall of FAME. Nobody was ever as famous at one point as Bo, except perhaps Ruth or Satchell Paige or Jordan. Of all the two bit barely make it players the Hall has allowed in, come on folks, give Bo some love, respect and acknowledgement he is well deserved due.

[frankh8147]

1. Mays
2. Aaaron
3. Maddux
4. Rose
5. Griffey

[Centauri]

As to the question of Jeter - how about greatest living short stop. Would you take Ozzie Smith over Jeter? Jeter better at the plate, Ozzie in the field. Both were very successful in regular season and post season.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by Centauri

As to the question of Jeter - how about greatest living short stop. Would you take Ozzie Smith over Jeter? Jeter better at the plate, Ozzie in the field. Both were very successful in regular season and post season.

Ripkin

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

Ripkin

Never use your 1990 Fleer cards to get the spelling of names.

[kengoldin]

Name career hits HR RBI AVG OPS MVPS GGs top 3 MVPs World Series champ
MAYS 3283 660 1903 302 941 2 12 6 1
Aaron 3771 755 2297 302 928 1 3 7 1
XXXXX 2519 520 1603 317 991 3 2 8 1


Sorry for formatting.....
what a skewed audience though.

player xxxxx should have won 5 MVPs as he was 2nd twice to Barry Bonds. 8 time top 3 in MVP voting 8 times in 10 years.
Player xxxxx is still putting up numbers, and unquestionably without peer during a 10 year period was considered the best player in the game....and likely the most consistent player from his rookie year to 12th season ever to play the game.
Player xxxx hit 3 home runs in a world series game to boot.
of course its Albert Pujols.
BTW, not saying he is 'the greatest living ballplayer' but it is amazing some of the names that HAVE been mentioned, and he hasn't been mentioned once.

[GregMitch34]

Without move to bandbox Atlanta no one would be picking Aaron over Mays.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by kengoldin

Name career hits HR RBI AVG OPS MVPS GGs top 3 MVPs World Series champ
MAYS 3283 660 1903 302 941 2 12 6 1
Aaron 3771 755 2297 302 928 1 3 7 1
XXXXX 2519 520 1603 317 991 3 2 8 1


Sorry for formatting.....
what a skewed audience though.

player xxxxx should have won 5 MVPs as he was 2nd twice to Barry Bonds. 8 time top 3 in MVP voting 8 times in 10 years.
Player xxxxx is still putting up numbers, and unquestionably without peer during a 10 year period was considered the best player in the game....and likely the most consistent player from his rookie year to 12th season ever to play the game.
Player xxxx hit 3 home runs in a world series game to boot.
of course its Albert Pujols.
BTW, not saying he is 'the greatest living ballplayer' but it is amazing some of the names that HAVE been mentioned, and he hasn't been mentioned once.

Hes on my list , post #50 on this thread

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by kengoldin

Name career hits HR RBI AVG OPS MVPS GGs top 3 MVPs World Series champ
MAYS 3283 660 1903 302 941 2 12 6 1
Aaron 3771 755 2297 302 928 1 3 7 1
XXXXX 2519 520 1603 317 991 3 2 8 1


Sorry for formatting.....
what a skewed audience though.

player xxxxx should have won 5 MVPs as he was 2nd twice to Barry Bonds. 8 time top 3 in MVP voting 8 times in 10 years.
Player xxxxx is still putting up numbers, and unquestionably without peer during a 10 year period was considered the best player in the game....and likely the most consistent player from his rookie year to 12th season ever to play the game.
Player xxxx hit 3 home runs in a world series game to boot.
of course its Albert Pujols.
BTW, not saying he is 'the greatest living ballplayer' but it is amazing some of the names that HAVE been mentioned, and he hasn't been mentioned once.

Ken I think we tend to think of the question as referring to retired not active players.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

Ripkin

In my opinion he is vastly over-rated.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

In my opinion he is vastly over-rated.

Im just saying i think he was better than jeter

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

In my opinion he is vastly over-rated.

430 HR, 3200 hits, 2 MVPs, about a zillion all star appearances and he was vastly overrated how?

[Fred]

You can try and make a case for Ripken, there's certainly an arguement to be made but he only led the league in a few offensive categories and only a few times. His .276 lifetime BA is more indicative of his longevity in the game rather than being a total monster in the batters box. However, if you're adding intangibles like being a great role model and sportsman, then you can make an agruement for him. Look at Barry Bonds, he was a monster in the box. Yes, it was assisted by PEDs but he was a monster. Now on the other hand, he was a total horses ass. If you let that negate his monster ability on the field then Ripken by far is the better choice.

Oh yeah, let me clarify something. I can't stand Barry Bonds. I think what he did to the game was just wrong. I think sticking around long enough to hit more HRs than Aaron was a classless act. I only wish MLB could have suspended him long enough to not allow that to happen.

Did anyone mention a pitcher as their choice?

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

430 HR, 3200 hits, 2 MVPs, about a zillion all star appearances and he was vastly overrated how?

In my opinion the only reason Ripke those milestones was because of the "iron man" streak. Regardless of what the record books say I will never view him as more durable than Gherig, not even close. Lowest BA in the 3000 hit club. Next closest was Rickey and he was a leadoff hitter. I don't give any weight to ASG appearances because it has turned into a popularity contest.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Centauri

As to the question of Jeter - how about greatest living short stop. Would you take Ozzie Smith over Jeter? Jeter better at the plate, Ozzie in the field. Both were very successful in regular season and post season.

I would take Jeter over Ozzie, and Ripken over both of them.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Centauri

As to the question of Jeter - how about greatest living short stop. Would you take Ozzie Smith over Jeter? Jeter better at the plate, Ozzie in the field. Both were very successful in regular season and post season.

ARod was better than both. And a lot better than Ripken.

[alaskapaul3]

Bonds 162.4
Mays 156.2
Aaron 142.6
Clemens 140.3...(note precipitous drop off after these 4)
Arod 116.0
Rickey Henderson 110.8
Seaver 110.5
Frank Robinson 107.2
Maddux 106.8
Schmidt 106.5
Randy Johnson 102.1
Joe Morgan 100.3

followed by Pujols, Niekro, Yaz, Ripken, Blyleven, Kaline, Boggs, Perry, Carlton who are all in the 90's...couple of surprises in there !!


-Paul

[talkinbaseball]

The Sey Hey Kid

[brookdodger55]

Sandy Koufax

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by alaskapaul3

Bonds 162.4
Mays 156.2
Aaron 142.6
Clemens 140.3...(note precipitous drop off after these 4)
Arod 116.0
Rickey Henderson 110.8
Seaver 110.5
Frank Robinson 107.2
Maddux 106.8
Schmidt 106.5
Randy Johnson 102.1
Joe Morgan 100.3

followed by Pujols, Niekro, Yaz, Ripken, Blyleven, Kaline, Boggs, Perry, Carlton who are all in the 90's...couple of surprises in there !!


-Paul

I like the info above...ironically, before seeing the list, I had the following as my top 6:

<1> Bonds
<2> Mays
<3> Aaron
<4> R. Henderson
<5> A. Rod
<6> Miguel Cabrera

Not sure why Miggy hasn't come up at all, but I think his early stats speak for themselves. And with respect to Rickey "Man of Steal" Henderson, how does someone with that much speed and base-stealing ability end up having the RECORD for most walks of all time (pre-Bonds)? That, to me, is one of the most mind-boggling stats ever. He's certainly the greatest lead-off hitter of all time (at least in my book).

[jason.1969]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

Its just a shame, totally not right, that Baseball and/or Football Hall of Fame does not put in Bo. think about it…hall of FAME. Nobody was ever as famous at one point as Bo, except perhaps Ruth or Satchell Paige or Jordan. Of all the two bit barely make it players the Hall has allowed in, come on folks, give Bo some love, respect and acknowledgement he is well deserved due.

My other nominee for the Freaking Amazing Player Cut Down by Injury wing of the Hall would be J.R. Richard. I'm not going to bother dumping out stats here...just remember how dominant this guy was whenever I listened to him pitch against my Dodgers. And the season he suffered his stroke really felt to me like it could have been his finest.

Richard is a great rags to riches to rags to riches story and a player whose Life in Cards will definitely become part of my collection.

jr-richard.jpg

[Sean]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

Its just a shame, totally not right, that Baseball and/or Football Hall of Fame does not put in Bo. think about it…hall of FAME. Nobody was ever as famous at one point as Bo, except perhaps Ruth or Satchell Paige or Jordan. Of all the two bit barely make it players the Hall has allowed in, come on folks, give Bo some love, respect and acknowledgement he is well deserved due.

Bo might have become a great baseball player, but (paraphrasing Bill James) you aren't a great player just because you could have been a great player.