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Old 09-23-2014, 11:54 AM
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I think I know why Jim is upset, and I don't really blame him.

Looks like he ate a bit of money on an item, quickly refunded when PSA disagreed with him, and still got saddled with a neg.

He's probably a little upset, that somebody who most likely has less experience and expertise then himself, holds sway over him.

....and if you look at his auctions, Jim doesn't exactly "chase crumbs". I think he has plenty of customer confidence and does fairly well without having to throw thousands of dollars into the coffers of the TPA's.
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Old 09-23-2014, 12:06 PM
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I think I know why Jim is upset, and I don't really blame him.

Looks like he ate a bit of money on an item, quickly refunded when PSA disagreed with him, and still got saddled with a neg.

He's probably a little upset, that somebody who most likely has less experience and expertise then himself, holds sway over him.

....and if you look at his auctions, Jim doesn't exactly "chase crumbs". I think he has plenty of customer confidence and does fairly well without having to throw thousands of dollars into the coffers of the TPA's.
ok i didnt say jim chased crumbs so follow along , and i am sure he is upset but it is the nature of the business in 2014 and a very important part of ebay , if you dont want to throw money at a tpa then you risk this because it is what customers want , and a good businessman will do the best he can to make them happy , then you end up like me with a neutral because the certed ball was entered wrong, i took the energy and contacted them had psa fix it and he spent more money , it is business. i dont want to pay ebay the fees i pay them each month either so what do i do ? bash ebay?
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Old 09-23-2014, 03:03 PM
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I think I know why Jim is upset, and I don't really blame him.

Looks like he ate a bit of money on an item, quickly refunded when PSA disagreed with him, and still got saddled with a neg.

He's probably a little upset, that somebody who most likely has less experience and expertise then himself, holds sway over him.

....and if you look at his auctions, Jim doesn't exactly "chase crumbs". I think he has plenty of customer confidence and does fairly well without having to throw thousands of dollars into the coffers of the TPA's.
I'd like to know the ebay name of that buyer so I can block him from my auctions. That guy has enough ebay feedback and experience to know that he shouldn't be giving out negatives when he got refunded quickly like that. That's BS.
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Old 09-23-2014, 03:17 PM
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I care more about the fact that the guy trust the tpa's more than they trust Jim.
To have that power and to use it to make there competiion suffer is sick.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:57 PM
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I do not know if this is why this was posted, but it makes sense if it is in relation to the Rupp. If it is in reference to the Rupp signature, then the buyer is a D-bag. What more can a seller do than issue a refund if there is a dispute on an item. I received a negative recently too after 3000 without for pretty much the same thing. It's very disappointing.

The second part of this would be, is PSA correct? I believe they are. Rupp is a signature that I would look for, although I did not see this one. If I did see this one, I would not have bid on it. Just my opinion and I am not trying to say anything negative about Jim as I believe him to be as honest as the day is long. Bottom line is whether you agree or not, Jim did the right think and got screwed by some guy. That is a major problem with Ebay, but one you have to live with if you choose to sell that route. I hate it too.
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Old 09-24-2014, 09:24 AM
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. . . that sellers could slap a buyer with a negative rating just for asking the
seller to respond with a positive buyer rating (for extremely quick payment
and a thank you). Happened to a family member. Ebay dismissed family
member's request to have rating overturned. But that is a story separate
from the intent of this thread . . . My apologies.
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:27 AM
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I do not know if this is why this was posted, but it makes sense if it is in relation to the Rupp. If it is in reference to the Rupp signature, then the buyer is a D-bag. What more can a seller do than issue a refund if there is a dispute on an item. I received a negative recently too after 3000 without for pretty much the same thing. It's very disappointing.

The second part of this would be, is PSA correct? I believe they are. Rupp is a signature that I would look for, although I did not see this one. If I did see this one, I would not have bid on it. Just my opinion and I am not trying to say anything negative about Jim as I believe him to be as honest as the day is long. Bottom line is whether you agree or not, Jim did the right think and got screwed by some guy. That is a major problem with Ebay, but one you have to live with if you choose to sell that route. I hate it too.
You did not see this one but if you had you would not have bid on it.
There is an old saying if my grandma had balls she would be my grandfather.
Well she does not and you did not. You just made up your mind that if JSA says it is no good then it is no good.
Your would make the best witness for the tpa's .Even if I have no idea what it looks like it is bad because they told me so.
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:58 AM
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You did not see this one but if you had you would not have bid on it.
There is an old saying if my grandma had balls she would be my grandfather.
Well she does not and you did not. You just made up your mind that if JSA says it is no good then it is no good.
Your would make the best witness for the tpa's .Even if I have no idea what it looks like it is bad because they told me so.

i did see it and didnt bid on it , and although that doesnt fit into a way to make psa/dna look bad i am sure with a little thought it can be turned around as well , you guys are off the charts trying to make the shoe fit , one response a few post ago had jim going to work at a tpa so he could ALSO cert his own stuff , trying to say steve grad and jimmy spence are certing their stuff and selling it , just something from out in leftfield , but again plants a thought in somebodies head of misdeeds , i would have to believe anybody with any sense would read some of this stuff and just dismiss 90% or so as sour grapes . unless you are actually dealing with them day to day spending money getting stuff certed , having stuff pass and fail , given explanations to reason why, getting pissed , seeing the bill , paying the bill doing business ,most of this stuff should be taken with a grain of salt , if people knew what i have bought with loa`s from non tpa , i mean dealers , people on here who everybody trust and ask their opinion , i mean guys that are held in the highest regard, most held in that regard by me i may add . if they would see them and see that they are just no good and they have made mistakes as well , then it is all the same. a dealer issues his own coa and opinion and charges you for the item , a tpa takes your money and offers a opinion , both items are bad , or if they are bad and both say good , same result , its a opinion and the tpa is going to be way less subjective , because duhhh it isnt their item , seller "a" issues a loa for a item he sells , well wonder if it is good ? upper deck a few years ago had a falling out with psa/dna , they needed somebody else to cert like 2000 pieces i had for them , asked if i knew anybody else , i said well maybe like keating or jsa even , he said well how about you can you cert the stuff , i said sure 5.00 each 10 grand or something ....paused and said they are all good , send me the check , i was just kidding but see the point they used jsa

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Old 09-24-2014, 11:11 AM
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i think i might as well throw this out , it seems i find myself on here defending this tpa stuff , well i have because what most are saying is just not true. now i have to admit away from here i actually spend all my time bitchin about the tpa , yes there are so many things i do not like ,i think are wrong , and are wrong that need fixed , i will stop short of calling it a racket but almost find myself using the term , if somebody would be interested in a talk of what is actually going on and not all this other bs then i think that would be more interesting productive and worthwhile
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