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Soaking question
Does anyone know if soaking an exhibit card could "cure" something like this? See ridiculously large image below.
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It might help some but I don't know if you could totally eliminate the wave.
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I'd try to soak it and put it under a stack of heavy books for a while.
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Just wondering if "soakers" are aware that soaking a card will change the ph of the cardboard and accelerate pyrolysis? Paper conservators always add certain chemicals to their soaking solutions to reduce this effect.
Last edited by Cardboard Junkie; 02-03-2014 at 04:10 PM. Reason: sp |
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Seriously? Pyrolysis? Are you making this sh$t up?
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Absolutely not making it up. (lots of videos on youtube about paper conservation by professionals) check them out.
Last edited by Cardboard Junkie; 02-03-2014 at 04:14 PM. |
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I had pyrolysis once, but I am cured now.
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Pyrolysis cure
I believe the problem can be taken care of with a little blue pill or laying in an old bathtub next to your mate.
Good luck with your issue Tim |
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Pyrolysis.......
is destabilization related to heat. As long as you don't soak your cards near your stash of firecrackers, you should be okay. If not, then you are using the pyro-technique and all bets are off.
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Damn, I have been soaking in the tub with my cards for years and always end up with wrinkles.
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No, he isn't making the term up. But it seems as long as you don't boil, or ignite, your cards you should be ok.
From Wiki- Pyrolysis is a type of thermolysis, and is most commonly observed in organic materials exposed to high temperatures. It is one of the processes involved in charring wood, starting at 200–300 °C (390–570 °F),. I would also not recommend grilling, baking or frying your cards . .
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I didn't infer he was making up the word...I looked it up too as I'm not that smart and just didn't think it was relevant to soaking bb cards!!!!
On the topic at hand...I soaked the exhibit...employed Frank's technique for drying and my card has been restored to Christopher Columbus's rendition of the earth...FLAT! I will post pic when I remove it from the "press!" Quote:
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but I suppose if I weren't so ADD...and took a minute to think about it...I could have inferred pyro=fire lysis=to break apart.
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Ego ludens feci
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Tackling the Monster T206 = 213/524 HOFs = 13/76 SLers = 33/48 Horizontals = 6/6 ALWAYS looking for T206 with back damage. Last edited by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards; 02-04-2014 at 09:46 AM. |
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Evidently you fellows need a refresher in physics 101.
Heat is the total amount of kinetic energy due to molecular motion in a body of matter. "Heat" doesn't have to be HOT. Does not have to be firecrackers or boiling water. A temp higher than absolute zero is heat! Therefore, put simply the "normal" degradation of matter can be speeded up after changing the ph of the substance. Soaking a card in water changes the cards ph...making it susceptable (sp)to rapid degradation. I'm not a teacher...look it up...ask a professional paper conservator..not some guy who does it in their basement. As an aside, I have heard the best substance for erasing graphite is a balled up piece of white bread. I haven't tried it yet but I saw a video and it looked like it worked very well without the abrasion that takes place with art erasers. Cheers. Last edited by Cardboard Junkie; 02-04-2014 at 10:03 AM. |
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The U of MD at baltimore...where I attended dental college...did not require physics as a pre-req...when I received the news I got in...I dropped physics like a hot potato!!!!! Thanks for the lesson, Dave...and a possible use for wonder bread!
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Got to try this, don't have any white bread at the moment though. Nice nugget there DP.
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Peace, and Cheers, . Dave.
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Leon--
I would also not recommend grilling, baking or frying your cards .
So wrapping them in aluminum foil & into the microwave for a while is OK?
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Voila!
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Well, It sure do look good!
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Wow that turned out great.
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Stiff as a board!
Pete,
The bathtubs worked out well. Stiff as a board! Tim |
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You appear to have nice toes......
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Hardly any pyrolysis!
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My scientifically-calibrated bullometer concurs with your assessment. LOL! |
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I countered the pyrolytic effects by using some ted williams dna that had been cryogenically preserved...works every time!!!!
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You may have accelerated the pyrolytic effects, Pete. I would definitely plan on selling that card before April 23, 2615.
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Did you sever the top of the card, drop it, and have it crack on the floor?
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LMAO...... "bullometer" ........I am stealing that one..
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Bullometer???
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