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Hi Kirk...a bit more from the same site...
PERSONAL INFORMATION Booking Nbr: 13736859 Last Name: PRAKONEKHAM First Name: DENPHET Middle Name: Sex: M Race/Ethnicity: O Date of Birth: 5/4/1964 Age: 49 Hair: BLK Eyes: BRO Height: 5' 06" Weight: 120 HOUSING LOCATION Facility: San Diego Central Jail Area/Housing Unit: 2/BKG Address: 1173 Front Street City: San Diego *For additional information, please click on specific link listed below* Facility Information & Directions Public Visiting Guidelines Visiting Schedule SERVICES (Browser must allow pop-up windows for this link) Email this Inmate Schedule a Visit with this Inmate Register with VineLink for Status Notification of this Inmate Shop the Commissary ARREST INFORMATION Arrest Agency: San Diego Police Department Date Booked: 05/28/2013 Time Booked: 18:10:49 Bail Information Eligible For Release, But Court Approval is Required, Bail Amount: $110,000 * Note: Bail amounts subject to change from Court Proceedings. RELEASE Sentenced?: No Projected Release Date: CASE / CHARGE INFORMATION Case # Arr Chg Code Section Code Description *CL Court Court Date Time *ROC Bail Amount 1 1 530.5(A) PC GET CREDIT/ETC OTHER'S ID F SDF 05/30/2013 13:30 Arraign $50,000 1 2 487(A) PC GRD THFT:MONEY/LABOR/PROP F SDF 05/30/2013 13:30 Arraign $20,000 1 3 487(A) PC GRD THFT:MONEY/LABOR/PROP F SDF 05/30/2013 13:30 Arraign $20,000 1 4 487(A) PC GRD THFT:MONEY/LABOR/PROP F SDF 05/30/2013 13:30 Arraign $20,000 * Note: CL - Charge Class (F - Felony, M - Misdemeanor, I - Infraction) ROC - Reason On Calendar New Search
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Wow
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We have hit the big time |
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Sure there are lawyers on here who know better but the type of electronic transfer of funds you did is not protected by this type of fraud. The bank can retrieve money if the transfer was not one you authorized. ETFs do not have the recourse we are afforded through credit card purchases. Obviously this guy thought about that when he structured your deal. At this point, assuming the card does not grade, your only recourse would be to sue or hope he/they are made to pay restitution, which ends up being pennies on the dollar. Just ask JP Cohen.
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Call paypal directly, I did when the Hope for Charities deal hit the fan, it too was out of the normal purchases realm. They made an exception and filed for a refund which I obtained after the standard waiting period. Scott |
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There is something that I don't understand unless I just missed it. He was arrested 2 days ago, but was logged onto this site yesterday. How does that happen? Multiple people sharing the same account?
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If you talked to them and paypal does not honor the refund. You might try filing a claim with the San Jose Better Business Bureau. It worked for me on a bad deal(resealed wax) about 3 years ago.
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everyone...thanks for your advice...it's going to be a busy afternoon!!!
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Short answer is yes. My guess, and this is only a guess, is that John Perez aka Den Prak, wasn't really Den Prak at all...nor John Perez, but in fact the ring leader whose name is unknown right now. There is a chance they gave each other login info on the board. It seems they were sharing some info between them with paypal, ebay or other accounts. Allegedly Den and several others are this ringleaders pawns. All that being said, I am only sure that Den is residing in jail, as evidenced by the above posts. Everything else is conjecture. I hope the whole kit and kaboodle get thrown in jail. My guess is that the ringleader is going to be difficult to catch unless there is cooperation from the Mexican authorities. It's a very tangled web....and a very large one.
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Net54 COULD replace baseball as "The National Pastime".
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the verdict is in...my ruth was graded A for added color...paypal was kind enough to grant me 1 exception to their rule and file a claim for the full amount minus the grading fee I presume?!?!
If our friend, Den Prak, or whomever is at the receiving end of the paypal account does not respond in 10 days...paypal will pay me the full amount. If he does respond...who knows what may happen?!?! |
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That's great news Peter - the paypal part
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Good Luck with that, Peter. I think you'll be ok. Dave
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Thinking of Leon's earlier post that this goes into the 1,000's of cards. The '57 Robinson shown in another post was in a PSA holder, hopefully these were not getting past TPG. On the other hand if these guys were creating their own slabs I sure hope there is a good way to spot them that comes out of this.
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Wow! I'm sure some of those cards could have fooled me. Good thing I'm broke!
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T206-520/524 T205-209/221 T207-68/200 T213-2 -65/185 E90-1 102/120 Topps 1954,1959,1964 Bowman 1954 complete Deals competed with: jb217676, marcdelpercio, dog*dirt, srs1a, KennyCole, ullmandds, RCMcKenzie, edhans, dboneesq, mybuddyinc, nineunder71, uke, T206kid, & more |
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If anyone needs paypal help please PM me.
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Could it be another WIWAG type deal? I wonder if these guys were getting into Fake PSA slabs and high grade modern stuff. Like Jordan 10s and what not. Will be interesting to see what comes of this. So these were the only transactions he did on here correct? But he did maybe 7 figures? Of what? Whats his ebay id if yall have it?
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Great job on this case!!! Now he can be a big time loser in jail!!! Post # 1 |
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Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct. I have to believe it was to set up a bigger, fraudulent deal. There was a 40k one in the works that got stopped at the last hour....thank God. That might have been what they were going for on the board, I don't know.
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Get the refund and keep the card! Offer it to the DA as evidence or keep it! F that crook. What's he gonna do, sue?
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"Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct."
How was he correct if he sold Peter a recolored Ruth?
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Thanks leon.
I was trying to just ask a question and thanks for the reply. I wasnt sure exactly what was going on and my questions were only questions and not facts. |
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Is this related, also involved scam out of San Diego?
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=san+diego
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This forum rocks!!!
I didn't know what I was getting myself into when I joined this forum! We have interesting topics, baseball expertise, how to spot fake cards, drama & suspense and now crime busting!
What's next and should I go out and buy some popcorn? p.s. Well done Leon, btw! |
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Just some questions about this guy who had an account here:
1 - How long was he a member (ie when was his profile created)? 2 - How many posts did he have? 3 - any clue how many transactions he had before this mess? Just wondering because I try and look an peoples profile info and try and judge if I should send them money or not. May not be a good way to judge but its all I have come up with so far. PS - that's the reason I add every person who I have had a good deal with to my sig, that way, I , as well as the person on the other end of my deal gets some "feedback".
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Successful transactions with: Drumback, Mart8081, Obcmac, Tonyo, markf31, gnaz01, rainier2004, EASE, Bobsbats, Craig M, TistaT202, Seiklis, Kenny Cole, T's please, Vic, marcdelpercio, poorlydrawncat, brianp-beme, mybuddyinc, Glchen, chernieto , old-baseball , Donscards, Centauri, AddieJoss, T2069bk,206fix, joe v, smokelessjoe, eggoman, botn, canjond Looking for T205's or anything Babe Ruth...email or PM me if you have any to sell. |
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Successful transactions with: Drumback, Mart8081, Obcmac, Tonyo, markf31, gnaz01, rainier2004, EASE, Bobsbats, Craig M, TistaT202, Seiklis, Kenny Cole, T's please, Vic, marcdelpercio, poorlydrawncat, brianp-beme, mybuddyinc, Glchen, chernieto , old-baseball , Donscards, Centauri, AddieJoss, T2069bk,206fix, joe v, smokelessjoe, eggoman, botn, canjond Looking for T205's or anything Babe Ruth...email or PM me if you have any to sell. |
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Thanks ted...if i end up filing fraud through my bank i was told that may be a good idea.
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The scammer in this thread is one of the biggest the hobby has ever seen. I gathered much more information about him after two failed scams against me over a year apart. I was the one that had a $40,000 deal in the works, figured it out, and alerted Leon. I've connected him to multiple alts on CU, net54, and blowoutcards. He has been doing this for many years and is now perfectly replicating PSA slabs as well. It's believed that he is operating out of Mexico and will be very hard to stop. He was the ring leader of the Cyrus Stivers case and Stivers never even met him nor knew who he was. He does everything from out of the country and uses other people as pawns, some of them don't even know they're selling fraudulent or stolen cards. His best scam is putting authentic, trimmed/altered/lower grade cards into fake PSA slabs. These things look scary legit. If you have ever dealt with this person, it's highly likely what you received was either stolen or counterfeit. I've connected him to the following scams: http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/f...fool-me-1.html http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=92552 http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...99-robbed.html All of the following are likely banned or inactive now but here's some of his various alts (I'll update this list as I learn more): net54 = sportscollector, sam1952 blowoutcards = supercollector2012, expertcollector CU = Will update this soon. eBay ids: reedca76, moderncollector2012, encapsulated_icons, top_shelf_cards, highest-grade |
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Good to hear Paypal is working with you, Peter (this hobby should be nothing but fun and it sucks when you have to deal with this crap). It's crazy to think the secret service is involved, but it's good to know they have our back! |
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Funny....Not really
It's interesting to me that these scams always seem to involve PSA graded cards/ holders. Hypothetically If your were PSA and were supposedly the biggest TPG out there, wouldn't you address the fact that your holder is easily breached, etc?
It's not hard to tell when a SGC holder has been cracked open, and frankly Beckett holders are damn near bomb proof and are destroyed when/if the holder is cracked. I own many high end cards in PSA holders, and would frankly be a bit more at peace with their product if I wasn't left wondering if my cards might be fake, etc... Last edited by MBMiller25; 05-30-2013 at 07:22 PM. Reason: Forgot the H in Holder. |
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Fake Packs Authenticated by PSA and FBI Investigations and Fake PSA Slabs and Secret Service Investigations.... What could be next?
Maybe this guy knows? |
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If only people used their powers for good instead of this bull...
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