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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T E
Fred at eBay's Sports Memorabilia board suggested I post this query here: |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: ScottIngold
Young portrait i believe. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: andy becker
looks like cy young portrait to me.... |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Joe Jones
Is it chesbro? |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T E
Is this a common kind of error? |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: andy becker
to further respond, looks like piedmont, el principe de gales, and old mill.....not sure i see any other tobacco brands. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: leon
suffice it to say, to the original poster, it is worth significantly more than a normal common card. My guess (and it's only an educated guess) from seeing other weird cards is somewhere in the $300-$600 range. I just thought I would throw out a respectable value for our fellow newbie. Hope this helps a little... Neat card btw...... |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: andy becker
to further, further respond , i don't think a psa slab would increase the value. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
The "ghost" image is that of Cy Young. This portrait pose of him was in the |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T E
Thanks, everyone. I bought this card back in the early '70s with about 180 others for $15. Years later, my apt was robbed, thieves took most of the cards, for some reason left about 75 on the shelf. This was one of the 75. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Hal Lewis
Awesome! |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T E
By the way, Ted, that is great information, thanks everyone, it's great to know there is a board like this around! |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Jamie Hull
Very cool card. Thanks for sharing it. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: steve f
Now I know where Eddie Van Halen got the design for his axe. Unique piece there! |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T E
I think I should have it authenticated by PSA in case I ever decided to sell- can't hurt. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Bill Kasel
Another reason why I love this site! What a unique and awesome card! Thanks for sharing. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T E
Ditto and likewise, Bill, on this site. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T206Collector
....is whose yellow silhouette is that on the back? |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T E
Jeepers, do you mean there is a second image, that yellow shadow? |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Trae R.
This is the coolest T206 error I've ever seen, I love it! |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T206Collector
...I think I can make out an arm or a leg -- most certainly not a portrait image. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Sean
That is one interesting card,I would never let that go...unless... |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Brian W |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T E
So the question is, what is this yellow ghost behind the Young ghost? |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
The Yellow coloring appears to have a pattern of a particular card's |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T206Collector
...I think the edges of the yellow are too crisp to be a wet sheet transfer. Not that it matters, but I think it was the beginning, first phase of printing another image. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Scot Reader (ebay: sreader3)
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: warshawlaw
I think the card is a four-figure one, especially if authenticated by SGC and offered in a major auction. Admitted printing freak junkies like me will pay for something that bizarre. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: PC
A better way to determine the identity of yellow ghost image is to trace (digitally or on a color scan) aound the image on the border of the yellow, and then look for the same outline/image in the T206 set. Any photoshop/digital imaging whizzes out there that can "delete" the other colors, or enhance the yellow, to get a clearer imprint of the image? |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Jamie Hull
Well, I had tried the Photoshop route yesterday on my lunch hour, and the prior post spurred to go back and give it another look. I'd accented the dark yellow patches while removing the lighter yellow shade that is clearly associated with Cy's green background. Then made the white sections of the card black. But I was stumped until this evening -- when I rotated the image horizontally. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: t206King
well here it is with "reverse color" its easier to see. it looks like an outline of something. i cant make it out to be honest |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: fkw
Great Job Jamie! I believe you got it. I didnt think anyone could figure that second card out. very cool way you did it too. Im impressed. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Sean
T-King, |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Lee Behrens
That is neat I am going to have play in photoshop. They are like retro cards. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Art M.
Very nice card indeed. Looks like the card got stuck at the printers over and over again! |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Hal Lewis
INTERESTING NOTE: |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: PC
[edited: posted twice] |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: PC
Hal: Mullaney comes right before Mullin alphabetically in the T206 set. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: tfever
Jamie... U're the man. I guess I need to learn how to use photoshop then I can do the same thing to some of my ghost cards. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T E
Your research is really incredible, thank you everyone! Thinking of turning the card sideways in photoshop, great! |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Leon
Sorry for my low original estimate. I wanted to at least get the ball rolling as it was a little slow to start. It's fairly normal on this board for something not to get much response until there are a few.... I don't track these "freaks" too much but other ones WITHOUT Cy on the back have brought my estimates. Congrats on such a neat card and the value which it has.....take care |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: PC
Probably a question for Ted and Scot, but does this card tell us anything certain about the timing of the T206 production process? It is obvious that the back is a Piedmont 350 (you can see the bottom of the "3" in the upper right corner), but there's nothing that indicates this card could not have been part of a blank-backed sheet left over from the 150 subjects printing, and used as a test sheet for both 150 printing and later 350 printing tests. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
PC |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: T E
Hey Leon, nothing to apologize for, I can't thank you enough, along with other posters, for your feedback and help. Giving an estimate is very tough, especially if you are the first to speak... |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Hal Lewis
I think you should submit it as: |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: Josh K.
I think if you made a request to sgc that they would probably slab it anyway you wanted. I would suggest calling them b/f you send it if you want to make sure that they will but the back in the front of the slab. |
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Mystery t206 card
Posted By: warshawlaw
and ask them if they would slab it with the back facing forward, since the back is what is the real attention-grabber. |
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