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Sometimes people forget that t206's were a premium and not the main product I can't see them saying stop the presses we spelled the name wrong or that player doesn't play for that team anymore. That's why there are way more T206's that are incorrect than there are corrected examples. |
T206 REF....Anti-tobacco guys....Connie Mack and Eddie Plank
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....http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...C150x30xxz.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohnson25xx.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...yab350x19x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...t150x12xxx.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...1910COUPON.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ITxSGC30xx.jpg ....... Sweet Caporal ..... Sovereign ... American Beauty__The "House" that created these Tobacco cards___PIEDMONT ........ COUPON .....….... UZIT 1985....Four of us trading cards in in my room at the George Washington Motor Lodge in Willow Grove, Pennsylvania, prior to the 5 PM (Friday) start of the BB card Show. Enter......Rob Lifson and Bill Mastro with the "sharpest" T206 Wagner ever seen. Furthermore, having a PIEDMONT 150 back. They were shopping it around, asking $25K for it. The 4 of us examined it closely, then told Rob and Bill that we decided to pass on it. All four of us agreed it was trimmed. Needless to say, this Wagner card was the talk of the Show that weekend. And the rest is history. This collection with the Wagner card was originally on an uncut sheet which included an Eddie Plank card. We did not see the Plank card. Years later we found out the Plank card was privately sold to Charlie Conlin. (on display here). http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...m022705A_1.jpg ----- http://i.imgur.com/35DTo.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/zDCvv.jpg Note the intensity of the BLUE background of the 150 Series Eddie Plank cards......whether they are a PIEDMONT or a SWEET CAPORAL. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SC150x30xb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nkSC150x30.jpg Having said all this..... it is my opinion that the initial Series of these T206's were definitely printed at the American Lithographic Co. (in downtown NYC). And, that the probable explanation for the SWEET CAPORAL 350 cards of Plank.....all (or most) of which have a pale blue background).....may have been printed elsewhere. I consider these SWEET CAP 350 Plank's to be some kind of an anomaly. The initial Plank cards are indeed 150-only Series subjects. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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This bold parts aren't true the difference in the two series is the clarity not the blue background. There are differences in the blue background but it's found in both series. The 150 series is the middle card in this image, the other two are 350's. Attachment 541774 |
T206 REF....anti-tobacco guys....Connie Mack and Eddie Plank
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.https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...SC150x30xz.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohnson208x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...t150x12xxx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yab350x19x.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...1910COUPON.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ITxSGC30xx.jpg .... Sweet Caporal ...... Sovereign ......... Piedmont___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards___American Beauty ... COUPON ...…...... UZIT Connie Mack's BB career spanned 65 major-league seasons as a Player, Manager, team Executive, and Owner. . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ConnieMack.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...940b%20_2_.jpg In the early 1900's Connie Mack enthusiastically recruited directly from College. Connie Mack's A's roster included the following College educated ballplayers. Connie Mack believed BB players received better training on the College teams rather than the ML Farm system. Player..........................................A's tenure Eddie Collins (Columbia).................. 1906-14, 1927-30 Jack Coombs (Colby College)............ 1906-14 Jack Barry (Holy Cross)................... 1908-14 Andy Coakley (Holy Cross)............... 1902-06 Doc Powers (Notre Dame)................ 1901-1909 Louis Castro (Manhattan College)...... 1902 Simon Nicholls (Univ of Maryland)..... 1906-09 Eddie Plank (Gettysburg College)...... 1901-14 Plank never attended Gettysburg College, but played on their team. Frank Foreman was the coach of the Gettysburg College team, who trained Plank. Foreman contacted Connie Mack regarding Plank's very effective southpaw pitching style. Eddie went from Gettysburg directly to the A's in 1901. TED Z T206 Reference . |
This is a very interesting thread, going all the way back. Lots of baseball history, not just the cards, but the players themselves.
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T206 REF....anti-tobacco guys....Connie Mack and Eddie Plank
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Hi James I appreciate your kind words. And if you have any questions regarding any topic here, feel free to email me.... tedzan11@comcast.net TED Z T206 Reference . |
Anti-tobacco guys....Connie Mack and Eddie Plank
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.https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...SC150x30xz.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohnson208x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...t150x12xxx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yab350x19x.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...1910COUPON.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ITxSGC30xx.jpg .... Sweet Caporal ...... Sovereign ......... Piedmont___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards___American Beauty ... COUPON ...…...... UZIT It is my understanding that Eddie Collins was also an anti-tobacco guy. If so, this may explain why his "150 Series" card was never issued. Here's a reprint of the unique Eddie Collins (with bat) proof card that American Lithographic (ALC) never issued. My theory is Eddie Collins initially did not want his image on a tobacco card. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...diecollins.jpg Subsequently ALC included Eddie Collins in their 350 Series...... https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...llinsSCx25.jpg I may be proven wrong about this...... anyhow, let's get a conversation going regarding this matter. TED Z T206 Reference . |
T206 REF.... Anti-tobacco guys....Connie Mack and Eddie Plank
We always enjoy meeting and seeing some of you Net54er's at the Philly Show.
Dan McKee and I will be set up at Booth # 211. We have lots of vintage and eclectic stuff for sale or trade at reasonable prices. Or, if you just prefer talking BB (or FB) cards with us....the conversation is free :) TED Z T206 Reference . |
T206 REFERENCE.....Stamps, BB cards, old Cars, which of them did you collect 1st ?
I have 2 classic Thunderbird's. Here is my 1960 T-Bird (352 cu. inch V8 with 310 Horsepower). I loved these cars when
I was a teenager. I acquired this car 30 years ago. Stay tuned for my older T-Bird. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...RDwoodshed.jpg Like a "true-blue" T206 dude....check-out the T206 on the license plate of this T-Bird :) https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...0tbirdt206.jpg Stamp collecting was my first Hobby. It was a very popular hobby in the 1940's. I mainly concentrated on the U.S. (note the scan of the first two stamps that were issued in 1847). My folks corresponded with their relatives in Greece, so I had a "ton" of Greek stamps. Also, I loved the colorful British Colonial stamps (for example Pitcairn Islands set of 10 stamps). https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...bumPage25x.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...UncutSheet.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ampsSet50x.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...UncleChris.jpg The 1947 World Series inspired me to collect BB cards, starting with 1947 BOND BREAD BB (48) cards). And, my 1st T206 (1981 at the Willow Grove Show). https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ookiestars.jpg ------- https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...aseblue50x.jpg Show-n-Tell us your HOBBY(s) experience. Were Sports cards first (or girls) ? :) TED Z T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists . |
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