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01-10-2005, 01:15 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff</b><p>Some of you guys mentioned a scam by someone named Card-Dove and I bought a card with money back guarantee of authenticity and unfortunately the card in the auction was centered and sharp while the card I got was heavily creased and rounded corners. I emailed card-dove to complain and her sister said she must have made a mistake and she sent me another card which had heavy staining and about 15 pinholes. I complained again and they said they would refund me so I sent the cards back; they received the cards but no refund as of yet. I have not gotten my emails answered. I guess it's off to court. Anyone have a similar purchase through this person on either Yahoo or Ebay?? Any info is appreciated Jetwarog@aol.com.

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01-10-2005, 01:27 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>If you have record of purchase/auction, can show that the card you received was not what was represented (condition, authenticity, whatever) and have the record of the seller saying they made a mistake, owe you a refund and would send you a refund, that's all you would need in court. This evidence would in essence have the defendant(seller) testifying that you are right (That's good).

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01-10-2005, 06:45 PM
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>i thought she was kicked off. <a href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=card-dove&item=-1&frompage=222" target=_new>http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=card-dove&item=-1&frompage=222</a>

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01-10-2005, 07:58 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff</b><p>I was going to ask you if the seller in question was the one that is in this link.<br /><br /><a href="http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=card-dove" target=_new>http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=card-dove</a><br /><br /><br />If so when did you buy from her? She has been off of eBay for some time now.

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01-11-2005, 08:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff</b><p>I bought a real nice 1952 Mays off Yahoo.com which I have found out is the worst place to buy any cards at all. She is still a current user there as "card dove". She had a money back guarantee and everything. Now she stopped replying to my emails and of course I got no refund. This is why I am assuming now it is a scam. I have been looking for anyone else out there who got ripped off by her but I have not found anyone yet.

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01-11-2005, 09:19 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark</b><p>She looks pretty buff in her photos.

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01-11-2005, 10:08 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff</b><p>Is this her on Yahoo?<br /><br /><a href="http://user.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/user/CardDove" target=_new>http://user.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/user/CardDove</a><br /><br />If so it says "No closed auctions found for user CardDove".<br /><br />Also when did you buy the card? Was it a recent transaction or was it awhile ago? I'm not sure how Yahoo works as I have never used that site but do you have an item number to look up the auction?<br /><br />I know it's alot of questions I'm asking but I'm just trying to get as much info about this.

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01-12-2005, 10:27 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff</b><p>The yahoo auction number was 87338778; it ended this past october/november. She is a very colorful liar. She wrote all kinds of emails to ensure she is a legit seller and all. After she sent me a junk card she wrote an email posing as her father saying Dove must have sent the wrong card and he would send the right one. I got another junk card. This time the sister June was going to refund me if I sent the cards back because Dove was away traveling. I sent the cards back and I got no refund and no more responses. She said she closed her Ebay account voluntarily. What lead to the posts I saw earlier about her being a fraud? Her Ebay feedbacks were pretty good. How many other accounts did she have??

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01-12-2005, 10:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Marty</b><p><a href="http://auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/87338778" target=_new>http://auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/87338778</a> <br />This is the auction. $1800 BIN for a 3 feedback seller.

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01-12-2005, 11:54 PM
Posted By: <b>Kenny Cole</b><p>That worked for me. I didn't get my $ back because my seller was such a piece of sh*t (11 felony convictions at the time of his death, which was something like age 32) that after he got out on bail from me getting him arrested, he stole a car, got chased by the cops, wrecked the car, got in a fight with the cop chasing him, took the cop's gun and shot the cop, and was then, as he deserved, repeatedly shot by the 5 or 6 other cops who had by then arrived on the scene. Karma. His next life should be as an amoeba. Fortunately, the cop he shot lived.<br /><br />But I digress. I filed a claim with the IFU and didn't expect anything to come of it. Fortunately, I was able to hook up with a couple of other people he had scammed, one of whom was fairly local to the thief. I had the cleaner claim which was why mine was prosecuted (I hadn't been paid anything back, Scott had), but he was out more money and did the legwork. The IFU turned it over to the local authorities. We got a good detective who busted the loser's ass, confiscated his computers, got a confession, and tossed him in jail. The DA charged him with several felony counts and was moving for a revocation of his parole when the thief suffered his untimely demise. I was really surprised that the IFU and the local authorities did anything about my $800 loss, but they did, or at least tried to. In fact, the assistant DA told me that my thief was probably going to get about 5 years of time to do due to his past convictions.<br /><br />I'm now a big supporter of the IFU. Maybe your Dove has a crinminal background too. Turn her ass in and take her down.<br /><br />Kenny Cole

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01-21-2005, 06:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>card-dove is back.<br /><br /><a href="http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/88972425?aucview=0x13" target=_new>http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/88972425?aucview=0x13</a>

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01-21-2005, 08:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>If they are thrown off ebay they go to Yahoo. Ebay is not anyone's favorite, but compared to Yahoo, it is like Mother Theresa. <br /><br />Rich

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01-31-2005, 01:08 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>back as redraven! on Ebay