Latest Pickups

[chalupacollects]

I cover all the Exhibit cards in my book. The 1922 set is tougher than 1921, easier than 1923.

Cool thanks! Will have to order that!

[edjs]

This just came in the mail. No idea who they are, but what a cool image. From 1904.

[Arazi4442]

Maybe I overpaid but I don't care. Collect what you like, right?

Very happy with this pickup.

[Bored5000]

Maybe I overpaid but I don't care.



I wish you would have posted that previously. :D;) Seriously, though, cool SRR pickup from an iconic boxing set.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Recent additions.

[Exhibitman]

Meet Eddie Booker:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Bm8AAOSw9V1ajObO/s-l1600.jpg

A recent HOF inductee, he has no cards, promos or other memorabilia to speak of, so I had to go after this photo for my HOFer set.

[Exhibitman]

Oh, and a 1948 Leaf SRR white back in nm-mt is never a wrong buy. Now you need to get the red glove variation to match it!

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1948%20Leaf%20Robinson%20red.jpg

[Arazi4442]

Thanks Adam & Eddie! I'd been looking for the right example for awhile, but still keeping an eye out for the red version.

[Exhibitman]

Here's a fun one, an oversized PC from Louis-Walcott. Haven't seen one of these ever before:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpostcards/websize/1948%20Gillette%20Louis%20Walcott%20PC%201.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpostcards/websize/1948%20Gillette%20Louis%20Walcott%20PC%202.jpg

[wondo]

Looks like a higher grade set - all in at $205. I've always liked this deck; interest has certainly waned.

[D. Bergin]

Looks like a higher grade set - all in at $205. I've always liked this deck; interest has certainly waned.


Love that set. Great price. That's my absolute favorite Jack Johnson card from a purely aesthetic standpoint.

[Exhibitman]

Does it have the pamphlet?

[wondo]

Does it have the pamphlet?

Doesn’t say. I did not take that into account.

[Exhibitman]

They almost ever do. I wanted to get a good look at one.

[Bill77]

Finally got a decent Jack Johnson and just started getting into wrestling cards.

[samosa4u]

I just got this back from PSA. I purchased it raw a few years ago and totally forgot about it. :) I thought it was a NM-MT card and was surprised it came back a 6 EX-MT. I then spotted a TINY ding on the bottom right corner that is mostly visible on the back. I probably missed it before sending it in. Oh well, I'm still happy with it.

[Exhibitman]

A signed Tyson RC? Nicely done.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Can someone explain why PSA sometimes will assign the card but not the auto a grade, and other times grade both? Is it a matter of what you ask for?

[samosa4u]

Is it a matter of what you ask for?

That's correct. So on the PSA/DNA form, it looks like this:

1. TYPE OF SUBMISSION: 򪪪 Grading 򪪪 Review 򪪪 Crossover (one type per submission)

2. TYPE OF GRADING: 򪪪 Card 򪪪 Autograph or 򪪪 No Grade (authentic only; card and autograph)

If you just want the card graded, but not the autograph, then you would just check the first box.

[Cozumeleno]

I wasn't really doing raw wrestling cards but I've seen so few of these Shawn Michaels 1989 Market Square rookies that I figured I'd better jump on it. I figure I could either submit it myself or hang onto it until a graded one surfaces. With only six graded by PSA, though, I may be waiting a while if I don't slab this one :)

[CobbSpikedMe]

Just picked up this sweet red backed E79 for a steal. Almost got the Attell but missed out on that one.

[Exhibitman]

Nice! I guess the seller missed it.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Seller totally missed them. No mention of the red back on any of the three. The Attell was even mislabeled as an E77 in the listing.

[butcher354435]

There were more than 3, there were 6 of them including a Jeffries and a Jack Johnson vs Cole... SGC should have also labeled them with Red Back as well. Great pick up! The Red Back E79's are really tough!!!

[CobbSpikedMe]

Really, there were 6 of them. How did I miss the other three! Oh well. I'm happy with the one I got.

Does SGC ever label them as red backed or no? I agree they should if they are so tough.

[Jerry G]

I have never been interested in reprints, but some of the fantasy cards are pretty compelling. Like this 1948 Leaf Ali.

Edit: The scanner caused the imperfection on the right edge. Card is cut perfectly square.

[GasHouseGang]

I like that Ali Jerry. Is it by a major company, or is it a one of a kind fantasy piece?

[Jerry G]

I like that Ali Jerry. Is it by a major company, or is it a one of a kind fantasy piece?

Thanks, David. This card is from eBay user 2013cardsforcheap. He has tons of cool fantasy cards. You being GasHouseGang, like me, will love all the great Stan Musial cards that never were.

[sthoemke]

Thanks, David. This card is from eBay user 2013cardsforcheap. He has tons of cool fantasy cards. You being GasHouseGang, like me, will love all the great Stan Musial cards that never were.

He did an amazing job on his Macho Man Randy Savage baseball card.

I think it is the greatest fantasy card of all time.

[sthoemke]

Picked up a lot of over 50 Panini boxers:

[shernan30]

I just started really getting into collecting boxing at National this year. Here are a few of my recent pick ups.

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[Exhibitman]

Nice!

[Copa7]

Looks like a great start. Congrats!

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Wesley Andrews, very nice!

Arthur

[Bill77]

I just grabbed this one to offset the shipping cost of another card I purchased from the same seller, and I thought the price was too good to pass up.

[G1911]

24/25, just need the Jas. J. Corbett now

[Exhibitman]

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingphotographsandephemera/large/Perez_%20Young.jpg

[GasHouseGang]

Wow Adam, where do you find these cards? What is the set and the year? I'm not familiar with it.

[vintage mesiah]

Nice rare cards all the way around this thread

[vintage mesiah]

http://a63.tinypic.com/2z3qan7.jpg

[vintage mesiah]

http://a65.tinypic.com/15fszfb.jpg

[GasHouseGang]

I guess I'm just moving the pics from BST over into the pickup thread, but here are my latest Sullivan acquisitions. Thanks John.:)

[Exhibitman]

Wow Adam, where do you find these cards? What is the set and the year? I'm not familiar with it.

Not a card, a fighter issued publicity photo from France, from the late 1920s or early 1930s. Bad condition but you have to take what you get sometimes, especially when it comes to Young Perez.

[Exhibitman]

I've been searching for this item for many years:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1930s%20H815%20Dempsey.jpg

H815 Adam Hats Jack Dempsey. I figured one had to exist because he was part of their celebrity matchbook promotion and the other sports subjects in that issue have cards.

[GasHouseGang]

Doesn't he look like he should be holding a machine gun? He really looks like a mobster in that photo. :D Oh, love the card by the way!

[GregZakwin]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RsanlVe8Stc/W7jklOvrmmI/AAAAAAAAWG8/yjOZE69GMosF-cTo5co94ir36eSfGHiGgCLcBGAs/s1600/Kid%2BBerg%2B1938%2BKO%2BFC%2BCartledge%2BPSA%2B8. jpg

[Peter_Spaeth]

It has not been easy to find one of these.

[wrestlingcardking]

It has not been easy to find one of these.

Great to see you pick it up!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Common enough card, but attractive I think.

[vintage mesiah]

Common enough card, but attractive I think.

Nice centering on that one,

[vintage mesiah]

http://a64.tinypic.com/55s1p2.jpg

[Exhibitman]

Probably my favorite UK Louis card. Nice pick!

[vintage mesiah]

Probably my favorite UK Louis card. Nice pick!


Thank u sir !

[Exhibitman]

Over the last 27 years I have opened hundreds of packs and browsed through countless thousands of other 1991 Kayo cards. I have never, ever seen one of the alleged autographed insert cards until now:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1991%20Kayo%20Signature%20Card.jpg

[D. Bergin]

Over the last 27 years I have opened hundreds of packs and browsed through countless thousands of other 1991 Kayo cards. I have never, ever seen one of the alleged autographed insert cards until now:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1991%20Kayo%20Signature%20Card.jpg


Wow, that's a new one on me. I've probably opened at least a couple cases worth of these, have sold several cases worth of single boxes and have a couple cases put away and have always been suspicious that these never even existed.

I've told people straight out, you're not going to get a signed card in this box, regardless what is says in the advertising on the box.

[Exhibitman]

And I would keep on telling them that, Dave.

[D. Bergin]

And I would keep on telling them that, Dave.


Would be curious to know if any others have ever popped up.

Must be Powerball type odds pulling one of these cards.

[Exhibitman]

The only reference I can find to the signature cards is on Jeff Allender's checklist site, where he checklists a red bordered Arguello. Since it references the border color difference I think the report of the Arguello is credible. Allender claims (without foundation) that the insertion ratio is 1:2160 packs, but is "reportedly scarcer." Yeah, no $hit, Sherlock. A total of two cards identified in the hobby over 27 years is definitely scarcer than one every 60 boxes (5 cases). I'm thinking that finding one is more akin to this scenario:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/dropins/wonka%20ticket.jpg

As I recall from reading Shark Tank, when Upper Deck invented the signed insert around this time, the executive who came up with it was inspired by Willie Wonka and wanted it to be like pulling a golden ticket. If Kayo followed suit, the cards may be unique. We didn't really start thinking about larger hit counts until years later.

[Peter_Spaeth]

So Adam under what circumstances did you come across this one?

[sthoemke]

I can personally vouch for opening 10+ boxes, and not getting any auto cards.

Seriously, 80-90 percent of the print run probably remains unopened.

Does anyone have any contacts to reach Williams and ask him the number of cards he signed?

[sthoemke]

Picked up 1946-47 Propagandas Montiel Reyes del Deporte - Primo Carnera.

[sthoemke]

The only reference I can find to the signature cards is on Jeff Allender's checklist site, where he checklists a red bordered Arguello. Since it references the border color difference I think the report of the Arguello is credible. Allender claims (without foundation) that the insertion ratio is 1:2160 packs, but is "reportedly scarcer." Yeah, no $hit, Sherlock. A total of two cards identified in the hobby over 27 years is definitely scarcer than one every 60 boxes (5 cases). I'm thinking that finding one is more akin to this scenario:

...

It is Carlos Palomino, not Arguello, who is referenced as a signature card.

http://www.nslists.com/kayobox.htm

[sthoemke]

This article states "So far, more than 250 million First Round cards have been printed and distributed..."

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Kayo+rejuvenates+boxing+card+arena-a011423282

[D. Bergin]

This article states "So far, more than 250 million First Round cards have been printed and distributed..."

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Kayo+rejuvenates+boxing+card+arena-a011423282


Yeah, it's a typical early 90's overproduction run. Totally over-estimated the market for boxing cards.

Similar story with AW (All World) the same year. Differences in distribution. It seems AW produced way less unopened product and way more factory sets, and Kayo stuck to mainly the unopened product, while creating less factory sets.

5 years later Ringside was a lot more savvy and sophisticated with it's release, and was much more transparent with it's chase card, autograph insert strategy. Still overproduced but not quite to the extent of the 91' releases.

I'm not sure of the full autograph insert list for this set. I don't think it's exactly a remarkable line-up of boxers, but at least they are attainable.

Still not successful enough to carry over into another series of cards until the modern day lineup of hobby boxes started coming out with much more limited distribution.

[Exhibitman]

Where did I get Arguello? Brain fart...

OK, each case has 14 x 36 x 12 cards = 6,048. That's 41,336 cases if the 250 million # is used. If the signed cards are 1 per 5 cases, that would be 8,267 signed cards. Surely more than two would have shown up in 27 years.

I don't buy the production numbers. That's a million of each card. At its worst in the junk wax era, Topps was reported to have made 5 million of each card. A fifth of Topps's max run for a minor sport and a first effort?

I also have to wonder how many were destroyed rather than saved for decades.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Did not expect to find one.

[shernan30]

Did not expect to find one.



Very cool!! Nice find.


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[Exhibitman]

FP had some nice card issues over the years.

[RCMcKenzie]

Picked up a high grade T218 Goodman. His record on the back is not very good, but high grade T218's are neat. I'm back into boxing cards because the price is right.

[Exhibitman]

T218 is my favorite T set in any sport. The art just cannot be beaten.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Hey guys, there's lot's of opportunities to start December's Pickups thread right in my auction. T227's, W529's, T219's Oh my.

Also if any of you go to the Philly show stop by and say "hi" I see so few boxing collectors it would be nice to meet some. </hijack>

[G1911]

8 '51 Ringsides, ~20 T218's for the master set, several silver borders, an E77 O'Brian, pair of tough T225 white borders, and some other pickups. Fun mailday today

[Peter_Spaeth]

Took me much longer to find than I expected.

[G1911]

Very nice card, my favorite Jack Johnson image

[RCMcKenzie]

previously mentioned T218 Tolstoi arrived...

[vintage mesiah]

Took me much longer to find than I expected.



Wow that’s a nice card for being a 6, nice centering and color to it

[Exhibitman]

Happy New Year to all you boxing fans! For my last one of the year:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpostcards/websize/1897%20Sullivan%20PC.png

Now the earliest boxing PC I have.

[Arazi4442]

Very excited to add this one!

[Jerry G]

Very excited to add this one!

Wow! Very nice.

[bellowslunchbox]

Hello,

I am new to the board and also new to collecting boxing cards. As a kid I collected baseball cards, but now I focus on boxing. I am slowly, piece by piece, putting together the 1951 Topps Ringside set, and yesterday Johnny Saxton came in the mail.

[vintage mesiah]

nice centered card welcome to the board! Hope to see more cards and talk about the sport , not a lot do

[bellowslunchbox]

Thanks! I am a huge boxing fan and love boxing history. The cards for me are really just an extension of that.

[Exhibitman]

Ditto. That was how I got into it.

Nice to have new boxing blood in here. The 51s are a classic set choice. I am still kicking myself for acquiring then selling off a partial set of signed Ringsides some years ago. I bought the lot to get at the Ray Miller but I really wish I'd kept the rest too. It had most of the possible (living at time of issue) signers. If you're a Ringside fan maybe these will be of interest:

Salesman sample w/Marciano RC:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/dropins/websize/1951%20Ringside%20Salesman%20Sample%201.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/dropins/websize/1951%20Ringside%20Salesman%20Sample%202.jpg

Contracts for the set signed by Ruby Goldstein, Barney Ross (Topps watermark is in the scan, not the contract), Ray Miller:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpremiums/websize/1951%20Ringside%20Goldstein%20Contract.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/Ross%201uto.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/images/websize/1951%20Ringside%20Contract%20Miller.jpg

[bellowslunchbox]

Those contracts are amazing. $1!

I picked the 51 set by accident. I think I had watched a couple old fight films of Jimmy Carter, the lightweight champion from the early 1950s, and decided to look him up on EBay and found the Topps Ringside card, which I promptly ordered. I also ordered a copy of your book, which has been a major help as well.

I like using the cards as a way to track my education of the history of the sport. I learned a lot about baseball as a kid through card collecting, and so the boxing cards are a way of carrying that forward.

[GregZakwin]

Ditto. That was how I got into it.

Salesman sample w/Marciano RC:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/dropins/websize/1951%20Ringside%20Salesman%20Sample%201.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/dropins/websize/1951%20Ringside%20Salesman%20Sample%202.jpg

Good god that Salesman Sample is GORGEOUS.

[Arazi4442]

Wow Adam! That is terrific. Thanks for sharing.

[Exhibitman]

Definitely one of my favorite pieces. I think 1951 Ringside is the nicest looking sample Topps ever made.

[RCMcKenzie]

Thanks to JeremyW for finding this one... Chickering cabinet of James J. Corbett

[GasHouseGang]

Beautiful cabinet. Even the back is great!

[Jerry G]

Arrived in today's mail, Andre the Giant by Boyd Pierce X 2. Puts me over 100 different. Anyone have any for sale or trade? Especially looking for DICK THE BRUISER. PM me.

[RCMcKenzie]

Thanks, David. Nice going, Jerry. I remember the old days on TBS with the former Minnesota Governor and all those guys.

Picked up a couple of T220's..

[Jerry G]

Wow, RCMcKenzie!

As Mr. Mint would say, "Those are blazers!" Both the colors and white boarders. Super nice!

[Exhibitman]

1950s Arte y Deporte (Mexico) Juan Zurita:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1950s%20Arte%20y%20Deporte%20Zurita.jpg

[RCMcKenzie]

questions? answers? A magazine addition?

[Exhibitman]

The set is catalogued on page 69 of my book, though I hadn't seen the Fitz before. It is a very tough issue to find. Appears to be a 1904 issue based on the record backs. They're not from any publication I know of. My SWAG is that they were issued in the West because of the Britt and Nelson cards. Those two were San Francisco-based in 1904.

ETA: coincidentally, I came across a George Dixon today:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1904%20Dixon%201_1.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1904%20Dixon%202.jpg

[RCMcKenzie]

Adam, thanks for the info. I had seen this "stats" issue on your website a while back when researching other cards and again when I got the Fitzsimmons in a lot from Lelands. BTW the lot had 2 Adam Hats promo photos with Zivic and another boxer. Rob

[Exhibitman]

Who was the other guy?

[RCMcKenzie]

Lou Ambers, the same as #450 posted on your website. I was thinking you already had these two, if not let me know.

[Exhibitman]

Just wanted to make sure my checklist was up to date.

[Exhibitman]

This is the nicest Peter Jackson cabinet I've ever seen. The clarity is remarkable in person.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1894%20Marsh%20Cabinet%20Jackson%201.jpg

These two ain't too shabby either

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https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1910%20Dingman%20Mounted%20Photo%20Wolgast.jpg
(Ad Wolgast)

[aljurgela]

1950s Arte y Deporte (Mexico) Juan Zurita:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1950s%20Arte%20y%20Deporte%20Zurita.jpg

Hey Adam... have you ever seen the album for this issue? I have a bunch of Mexican baseball cards and I am trying to get information on and have never seen the album.

Thanks for any help.

Al

[Exhibitman]

I have not.

[Exhibitman]

Picked this up recently.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpremiums/websize/Lewis%20Bronze.JPG

In bronze. Measures about 5" x 8" [12.5 cm x 20 cm]. It says "Made In Paris 1909 Fraisse"

Édouard Fraisse is known mainly for his compositions inspired by sport. He was a member of the Société des Artistes Français and the Société Nationale des Beaux-Arts; he also exhibited at the Salon d'Automne. Fraisse studied under Barrias, Coutan, Chalpain and Vernon. He collaborated with Henry Demey on numerous medals and plaquettes that typically depicted figures and especially sports figures in action. They were considered to be some of the best and most prestigious plaque and medal makers in France during the 1920s and 30s. He was made a Chevalier of the Légion d'Honneur in 1929.

I wondered why Willie Lewis. Turns out that he moved to Paris in 1909 and fought there several times over the next few years. In early 1910, Lewis made an unsuccessful bid at the world middleweight title losing to Billy Papke and made two unsuccessful attempts at the world welterweight title, controversially drawing against World welterweight Champion Harry Lewis (no relation) twice in Paris.

[Bored5000]

Such a cool piece, Adam. I am kind of surprised the artist did not go with Sam McVey. BoxRec shows him fighting over a dozen times in France in 1908 and 1909, usually in Paris itself. McVey was the "idol of Paris." That nickname is even on his gravestone.

[GasHouseGang]

Oh wait. In bronze, wow! I thought it was plastic made to look bronze. That's really unusual Adam.

[Exhibitman]

Such a cool piece, Adam. i am kind of surprised the artist did not go with Sam McVey. BoxRec shows him fighting over a dozen times in France in 1908 and 1909, usually in Paris itself. McVey was the "idol of Paris." That nickname is even on his gravestone.

Fraisse did a sculpture called the boxer which I think looks a heck of a lot like Mcvey.

[Bored5000]

Fraisse did a sculpture called the boxer which I think looks a heck of a lot like Mcvey.

Ah, ok. I wasn't aware of that. :)

[yanksfan09]

Every once in a while I get the urge to pick up another vintage boxing card. Once I saw these C. 1908 Birmingham Smallwares Jack Johnson postcards, I had to have them! Images are incredible. Just arrived today. Anyone have more info on these? I'm assuming these are some of the earliest Jack Johnson cards/ collectibles? I have a 1909 Ogdens "RC" already. Also picked up my first period John Sullivan piece (CDV) and the 1909 Jeffries/Johnson/McVey playing card, another Rookie era piece. These smallwares are now my favorite boxing pieces now of my relatively small boxing collection. The one of Jack Johnson in the suit and top hat may be my favorite of the bunch!

Any idea if PSA grades/slabs these? I don't think they have yet but not sure if they will? I think I'll probably have slabbed by SGC at some point, they all have some glue residue on the backs anyway except the one already graded 2.5.

[Jerry G]

Erick, those Birminghams are amazing in quality and subject! They are all new to me. Thanks for sharing.

[D. Bergin]

Erick, those Birminghams are amazing in quality and subject! They are all new to me. Thanks for sharing.


Yeah, those are fantastic.

Even that Johnson/McVey card, which isn't that rare, but is probably my favorite boxing card of all time.

[yanksfan09]

Thanks Jerry and Dave!

[Exhibitman]

Great stuff!

The set is likely a 1908-1909 mix since it has a post-fight image and the fight was 12/26/08. I doubt they'd have sold the card for only a week.

I don't know if PSA would grade them but I think SGC would. We (all) really need to try and get PSA grading more boxing stuff. If I wasn't so busy at work and trying to get the next edition of my book done before the National, I would try to press them to up their game, for purely selfish reasons: I have a ton of cards of HOFers that they would need to grade so I could register a HOF set. There are lots of HOFers w/o cards that PSA grades.

[yanksfan09]

Great stuff!

The set is likely a 1908-1909 mix since it has a post-fight image and the fight was 12/26/08. I doubt they'd have sold the card for only a week.

I don't know if PSA would grade them but I think SGC would. We (all) really need to try and get PSA grading more boxing stuff. If I wasn't so busy at work and trying to get the next edition of my book done before the National, I would try to press them to up their game, for purely selfish reasons: I have a ton of cards of HOFers that they would need to grade so I could register a HOF set. There are lots of HOFers w/o cards that PSA grades.

Thanks Adam,

Great info! Do you have an image of the post fight one? Any idea of total number of cards in the set? Can't seem to find much info on them.

I'm thrilled to say I just met a local collector/ dealer today and did a deal for 2 more of these that I did not yet have!

Noticed another interesting thing. They are slightly different sizes, neither trimmed. The smaller one is on slightly darker/creamier card-stock and has a different PC back (KODAK AUSTRAL Stamp box). That's the #9 "Ready for a left hook". The smaller one also has a slightly smaller, more compact photo area inside the white border. This Kodak #9 is also the same image as image as the #11 I had with different caption.

The #5 "Ready to deliver left uppercut" I got is like the rest I already have on brighter card stock and the same size as others.

I'm assuming that likely all cards from the set were presumably issued with both PC backs. Seems like the KODAK ones originate from Australia, in promotion of the fight, while others from UK I believe? Ever seen any other PC backs?

[Bugsy]

Just picked up two more Tommy Gibbons pieces for my St. Paul boxers collection.

[GasHouseGang]

Thanks Adam,

Great info! Do you have an image of the post fight one? Any idea of total number of cards in the set? Can't seem to find much info on them.

I'm thrilled to say I just met a local collector/ dealer today and did a deal for 2 more of these that I did not yet have!

Noticed another interesting thing. They are slightly different sizes, neither trimmed. The smaller one is on slightly darker/creamier card-stock and has a different PC back (KODAK AUSTRAL Stamp box). That's the #9 "Ready for a left hook". The smaller one also has a slightly smaller, more compact photo area inside the white border. This Kodak #9 is also the same image as image as the #11 I had with different caption.

The #5 "Ready to deliver left uppercut" I got is like the rest I already have on brighter card stock and the same size as others.

I'm assuming that likely all cards from the set were presumably issued with both PC backs. Seems like the KODAK ones originate from Australia, in promotion of the fight, while others from UK I believe? Ever seen any other PC backs?

Those are great postcard images. I wish the cards of him were as good!

[Exhibitman]

That Gibbons card is a prize. I was an underbidder but I had too much invested in other things.

[Bugsy]

That Gibbons card is a prize. I was an underbidder but I had too much invested in other things.

Thanks Adam! I mostly collect St. Paul boxers, so this one was a real score.

[Bugsy]

I just picked up this tough example for my Stanley Ketchel collection.

[G1911]

I just picked up this tough example for my Stanley Ketchel collection.

Very cool! Always love to see E78’s

[Exhibitman]

Ketchel collection? Details, please.

[Exhibitman]

Here's something I'd been after a for a while, a genuine JCC signed card:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/S4wAAOSwF0hdFV2o/s-l1600.jpg

His sig is basically chicken scratch and not that easy so I'd been reluctant to buy one but now with the UD issue I can finally add a good one.

I'm glad the card cos are doing autographs of some additional modern fighters in almost every issue. I've picked up HOFer and future HOFers Tyson, Hearns, Jones, Holyfield, Calzaghe, Holmes, GGG, Canelo, Pacquiao, Marquez, Ward, and now Chavez. I would definitely like to see them add some others: for me it is a perfect way to expand my HOF collection.

[Bill77]

Just a couple of boxing cards that recently caught my eye.

[Exhibitman]

I am super excited to get this one:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jmEAAOSwXSRcrs4a/s-l1600.jpg
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pM0AAOSwWiJcrs4h/s-l1600.jpg

As a refresher for those who might not know the history, Les Darcy is a HOFer with virtually no career issued cards. He died suddenly of a bacterial infection in early 1917 at age 21 but, like Mexican great Salvador Sanchez (killed in a car wreck at age 22), Darcy was so talented that he'd already secured a legacy worthy of a HOF induction. Since his career started in 1910 and spanned only a bit over six years, the cards that do exist (1922 Davies & Herbert, 1920s Romeo y Julieta, 1932 Sweetacres, 1933 BDV Tobacco) are post-career cards, which leaves this 1915 fight promo card as his only career contemporary card. Since that is what I aim to have for every HOFer, it has been on my 'buy if you see it' list for years.

[D. Bergin]

Sweet card Adam. Love those Australian stadium cards.

[RCMcKenzie]

Here's an EL RAY Cien Boxeadores card of Tommy Burns. It uses the 1921 Exhibit image and has a back that says it's made in Caracas. There was also a Jimmy Clabby that I assume one of y'all outbid me on. The Clabby also appeared to have the same image as his exhibit. Clabby does not have a lot of cards, so that was a nice grab. It's a little shorter than a T206. Any news on these? Are they in the Boxing Card Bible?

[Exhibitman]

The El Rey cards are an entirely new discovery from Venezuela. Here's Clabby:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1920s%20El%20Rey%20Clabby.jpg

the two appear to be from different series; this one looks like it is from a boxing rules (Reglas De Boxeo) series. Gonna be fun to see what else is in store for us from Venezuela.

I don't think 'Cien' is a series; it appears to be an advert offering the purchase of 100 cards for 1.50 Bolivars, same as the ad on the back of the Clabby.

[RCMcKenzie]

I just realized when you pointed it out that the backs are different. The Burns is not numbered. I was using my limited Spanish thinking that "cien" meant 100 to the set. Would you guess these are from the late 1920's or maybe later? Rob

[Exhibitman]

Judging from the subject, look and the paper it is 1920s.

I looked at the card under a microscope. The front is photoengraved. That is consistent with other cards of the era from Venezuela. It reminds me a lot of the 1931 Doble Aguilas but that might be a bit later because of the fighters. Clabby was active until 1923; the image is from the 1921 Exhibit card. The Burns is also from the 1921 Exhibit set, so that would be consistent. If more of them show up we might learn more.

[G1911]

Sometimes, the backs are nicer than the fronts. Thanks to DaveW, 5 very tough steps closer to the Master Set.

And to be perfectly on topic instead of non-boxers-from-what-is-primarily-known-as-a-boxing set, here is a boxer-from-what-is-primarily-known-as-a-baseball-set. Turkey Reds must be the most aesthetically pleasing boxing cards printed yet. Not rare at all, but some of my favorites to pick up

[G1911]

It's all about the backs

[Exhibitman]

Love it! Bust some more! As for me, I'm so friggin' lazy I just buy 'em raw and save myself the work:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/N692%20Old%20Fashion%20Fine%20Cut.jpg

Another El Rey series specimen:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1920s%20El%20Rey%205.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1920s%20El%20Rey%206.jpg

[Marslife]

Nice Tolstoi Score GMan!

upgraded my Johnson:

365629

[G1911]

Nice Tolstoi Score GMan!

upgraded my Johnson:

365629

Beautiful, my friend! I strongly regret not picking up a T227 Johnson a few years ago, before this set took off a bit. The artwork is better than any non-Turkey Red T cards

[D. Bergin]

Love it! Bust some more! As for me, I'm so friggin' lazy I just buy 'em raw and save myself the work:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/N692%20Old%20Fashion%20Fine%20Cut.jpg






Interesting. I've seen the one with just the two kids, but never with the fella in the middle. Do we know who that is?

[Exhibitman]

Best research is it is HOFer Paddy (not Patsey) Duffy. Note that Wikipedia and Cyberboxing Zone both show Patsey Duffy's N29 image.

[G1911]

From a very kind board member for my e79 set. The Gans/Nelson is a personal favorite, referencing their classic 42 round 1906 battle

[Exhibitman]

C'mon guys, we can't let the wrestling people dominate; let's see some boxing.

Did anyone get any of the Jean Donat Dupont Indiana-Sport-Avion cards the other night? I got one, with my last snipe:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MtYAAOSwXJZdhD3N/s-l1600.jpg

For those who don't know, it is a brutally tough French set from around 1936 that includes a bunch of boxers as well as baseball, hockey, football and other sports. Also aviators and planes in this series. Anyhow, they seldom are offered for sale and I needed an Avion variation for my type card set.

[RCMcKenzie]

.

[Exhibitman]

Now those are tough.

Very pleased to add another mag with my cousin on the cover:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/images/websize/Ringside%20News%201929%2001%20Ray%20Miller%20Cover .JPG

January 1929 from Detroit.

[ocjack]

My wife dragged me to an antique mall. She found a table she wanted. I found these sitting in the corner of one of the display cases. I may go with her more often.

[buchner]

Interesting. I've seen the one with just the two kids, but never with the fella in the middle. Do we know who that is?
Its Cal McCarthy (1869-1895) Featherweight Champ.

[Exhibitman]

Its Cal McCarthy (1869-1895) Featherweight Champ.

How'd we get to that determination? I'd like to include it in the 11th edition.

[buchner]

Adam....I have a 11X14 J Wood cabinet with the same pose. It is him, you must have other photos of McCarthy as he was well known. John

[Exhibitman]

Can you post a pic of the cabinet?

[buchner]

My scanner is down, but I can send you a photocopy, but will probably have to reduce the size. Let me know and send your address if you want a copy. John

[GregZakwin]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7bN4kCOUaaI/XaKdBWtmFGI/AAAAAAAAXB0/5x0ohyy9PsEe5fRg0RC4f2ZEhNIZdaeoACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Young%2BMcGovern%2B1921%2BRomeo%2BY%2BJulieta%2BPS A%2B.jpg

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[Exhibitman]

RyJ: not one you see often.

My most recent:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/toptenitems/websize/Sullivan%20autograph.jpg

[wrestlingcardking]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ryj: Not one you see often.

My most recent:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/toptenitems/websize/sullivan%20autograph.jpg

[Exhibitman]

Yeah, I stared at it for a couple of weeks before I finally decided to pull the trigger on it but in the end it checked all the boxes for me. Talk about coincidences, a few days earlier I got this:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpremiums/websize/1892%20Sullivan%20Corbett%20Ticket.jpg

[GasHouseGang]

RyJ: not one you see often.

My most recent:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/toptenitems/websize/Sullivan%20autograph.jpg

Wow Adam, that's an amazing card. Especially autographed! :eek:

[Exhibitman]

The signature is what made it irresistible. I have a stellar Sullivan cabinet already--there are a variety to choose from--but signed? Fugedaboutit.

[th38larg]

:eek: Very nice. Wow.

RyJ: not one you see often.

My most recent:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/toptenitems/websize/Sullivan%20autograph.jpg

[Exhibitman]

Its Cal McCarthy (1869-1895) Featherweight Champ.

John's right. The cabinet and the N692 are clearly the same guy. Glad we solved that mystery 150 years after the fact!

[RCMcKenzie]

I can't believe I won this tonight. This moves into the top 10 cards I own and it was 2 hundos and the vig and shipping. I looked through the Leland's catalog over and over. About 2 hours before the close I saw this in "internet only" section. I can't believe it. So geeked...

[Exhibitman]

Great card! Red Cross T219s are unbelievably tough to find so getting one of the keys is a heck of a pick-up for a collection.

The boxing stuff closed fast in Lelands last night; being in SoCal I was done with my bidding before I finished dinner. Several of my bids held and I ended up with over 2000 cards. Gonna be a hell of a sorting party!

[D. Bergin]

Great card! Red Cross T219s are unbelievably tough to find so getting one of the keys is a heck of a pick-up for a collection.

The boxing stuff closed fast in Lelands last night; being in SoCal I was done with my bidding before I finished dinner. Several of my bids held and I ended up with over 2000 cards. Gonna be a hell of a sorting party!


Congratulations Adam. I was going to bid on a bunch of stuff, then I sat down to watch "The Magnificent Mrs. Maisel" with the wife, and before I knew it, I looked down at my phone, it was past 10pm and I went "Doh!"

:)

[Exhibitman]

Thank you Amazon!

I picked up three of the four large lots at the opening. Had one other bidder on the 4th lot--must've seen the 1915 Susini Tris Speaker in there. I basically paid a buck a card overall, which is hard to go wrong on; I will give it my best shot, though, and see if I can't lose money anyway :D.

[D. Bergin]

Definitely some decent buys looking back over at the closed lots.

[Exhibitman]

It is going to be so much fun seeing what type cards I have and what I don't, seeing what slabs I can replace with raw cards, etc.

I did get one cabinet lot and from the start of the auction to the end two of the subjects were elected to the IBHOF (Erne and Ryan), which is nice.

[G1911]

I can't believe I won this tonight. This moves into the top 10 cards I own and it was 2 hundos and the vig and shipping. I looked through the Leland's catalog over and over. About 2 hours before the close I saw this in "internet only" section. I can't believe it. So geeked...

$200 plus fees is one hell of a steal for that!

[nameless]

Just started collecting again. Picked one of these up at Heritage and one at REA this past weekend.

[RCMcKenzie]

$200 plus fees is one hell of a steal for that!

Thanks, that's what I thought.

Nice Hess cards, JJ.

I guess, Adam's eBay store should have some more cards soon after winning 2000 of them.

Rob

[Exhibitman]

Yep. Next year will be busy :D

[Exhibitman]

Can anyone help ID these guys?

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/Unk%20Cabinet%201.jpg
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https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/Unk%20Cabinet%203.jpg

[G1911]

Can anyone help ID these guys?




Those bottom two have great looking borders. The bottom gentleman's image looks very familiar, I'll go through my 19th century box this week and check if I have that image and an ID on it.

[Exhibitman]

"The bottom gentleman's image looks very familiar"

I know, it's like a name you can't quite recall.

[RCMcKenzie]

Here's Hearns...

[G1911]

This one takes me to 44/50 on the tough Miners Extra set, though this rare pink print variation pales to the gorgeous Red Cross Attell above

[Exhibitman]

T219 ME and RC are both difficult, the latter rare. I admire your perseverance; I didn't have the patience to do the sets so I just kept a type card.

[RCMcKenzie]

I sold off a number of T219 HLC and ME a number of years ago. I have this Attell on my pc from 2012 and think it's still in a box somewhere... I guess I need the HLC now and the T218 tolstoi....GL on the T219 ME's

[G1911]

Thank you guys! Having a blast with the T218-T220 master run, though the Red Crosses aren't happening. A Honest Long Cut Black, HLC Green, and Miners complete sets will be enough for me. I dabble in adding type cards sometimes for some variety (your book, Adam, has been a wonderful resource on that front), but the American Tobacco lithographic issues are my aesthetic favorites.

RCMcKenzie - Attell thankfully doesn't have a T218 Tolstoi back available, just the Hassan 30, Hassan 649, Mecca 30, Mecca 649 no series notation backs as a series 1 card. Those Tolstoi's are darn tough, I'm sitting on just 20/50 after 15 years collecting the master set.

[RCMcKenzie]

RCMcKenzie - Attell thankfully doesn't have a T218 Tolstoi back available, just the Hassan 30, Hassan 649, Mecca 30, Mecca 649 no series notation backs as a series 1 card. Those Tolstoi's are darn tough, I'm sitting on just 20/50 after 15 years collecting the master set.

Thanks for the info. I forgot HLC has 2 backs. I will have to look for those for Attell.

I didn't realize T218 Tolstoi is only available w/ 50 backs. That almost seems possible to complete. I need to see what I have. I know I have more than 10 Tolstoi backs. I need to make a checklist. Rob

[G1911]

Thanks for the info. I forgot HLC has 2 backs. I will have to look for those for Attell.

I didn't realize T218 Tolstoi is only available w/ 50 backs. That almost seems possible to complete. I need to see what I have. I know I have more than 10 Tolstoi backs. I need to make a checklist. Rob


Here's the checklist of the cards possible with a Tolstoi back. All 50 cards released with series 2, minus the Jack Johnson (Green background, horizontal), a rule breaking card that was added late in series 1 production and released for only part of the print run for both series 1 and 2. I've never seen a Tolstoi back of this card, and no one seems to report owning one, though there is still a slight chance it exists.

There are some tough specific front/back combos on other cards, but the 50 Tolstoi's and 5 or 6 spelling error variations in series 1 are the main hurdles on the master set. I'm down to under a hundred cards left, but at this pace I'll need another 25 years or so to finish the Tolstoi's.

Patsy Brannigan
Knock-Out Brown
Walter Bursch
Young Corbett
Leach Cross
C.M. Daniels (Crouching)
Young Donahoe
W.C. Fielding
John Flanagan (Horizontal)
Joe Gans
Geo. Gardiner
H.E. Gissing
Abe Goodman
Jack Goodman
Charley Griffin
J.L. Hartranft
Harry Haywood Jr.
Joe Jeanette
James Jeffries (Drapes)
Harry Jensen
Jack Johnson (Blue)
Joseph Jordan
Al Kaufman
W.J. Keating
W.J. Kramer
Sam Langford
Young Loughrey
Emilio Lunghi
Honey Mellody
Frankie Neil
Fighting Dick Nelson
Young Nitchie
Smythe Northridge
Phila. Jack O’Brien
Tommy O’Keefe
George J. Obermeyer
Wm. Papke
Frank Riley
J.A. Ruddy
Unk Russell
Harry Sedley Jr.
Melvin W. Sheppard (horizontal)
C.C. Steinert
Harry Stone
James P. Sullivan
Mike (Twin) Sullivan
Clarence B. Tippet
Jimmy Walsh
R.P. Williams
Harold A. Wilson


The Attell checklist for the pose has 9 cards, I think
Hassan 30
Hassan 649
Mecca 30
Mecca 649
Honest Long Cut Black
Honest Long Cut Green
Miners Extra
Red Cross
C52

[RCMcKenzie]

Thanks very much for the Tolstoi checklist. It sure helps to know what to look for. I'm at 14/50 Tolstoi with these 2 dupes. I have a lot of T218 in boxes to see if I have any more. They are not unsearched boxes, I just get unorganized and misplace cards.

[G1911]

Thanks very much for the Tolstoi checklist. It sure helps to know what to look for. I'm at 14/50 Tolstoi with these 2 dupes. I have a lot of T218 in boxes to see if I have any more. They are not unsearched boxes, I just get unorganized and misplace cards.

Gans is a pretty nice dupe to have! Good luck finding a couple more in those other boxes. It's almost like getting new cards when you find that box of random stuff in the back of the shelf

[Exhibitman]

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1890s%20CDV%20Sullivan%20by%20Slingsby.jpg

It took a while to get here but worth the wait; a pretty nice CDV for 135 or so years old.

[Exhibitman]

I've started listing new boxing cards on my eBay store: first 15 lots are live. Anyone who wants something from the BIN listings LMK: 10% off if you buy directly from me through N54. If you want one of the auction items, LMK and we can see if we can work out a sale price.

https://www.ebay.com/str/agbcthestore

[GasHouseGang]

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1890s%20CDV%20Sullivan%20by%20Slingsby.jpg

It took a while to get here but worth the wait; a pretty nice CDV for 135 or so years old.

I have a cabinet with the same picture, but if yours is a CDV does that mean it's a smaller size 3.5 x 2 inches? Mine is a cabinet and I think the print is larger than that.

[Exhibitman]

Exactly. A CDV is about the size of a 1953 Topps baseball card.

[RCMcKenzie]

Thanks to Cliff, this T227 Miner's Extra Abe Attell brings me to 20/24 for the set. Still need Baker, Cobb, Bruce-Brown, and Rodgers. Brown and Rodgers are the chase cards. Baker and Cobb are expensive...

[Jerry G]

Thanks to Cliff, this T227 Miner's Extra Abe Attell brings me to 20/24 for the set. Still need Baker, Cobb, Bruce-Brown, and Rodgers. Brown and Rodgers are the chase cards. Baker and Cobb are expensive...

Great colors!

[Exhibitman]

Let's see some new stuff, dudes!

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpremiums/websize/Singer_%20Al%20signed%20photo.jpg

[RCMcKenzie]

Thanks, Adam, the Slavin cab goes well with his n174 pink-tint faded card...

[Exhibitman]

I think Wood did the photos for both issues.

[oldjudge]

Here is another with that Slavin image. It is the only boxing N173 I have ever seen, but you guys know boxing a lot better than I do. Has anyone seen another one?

[Exhibitman]

Nope, that's the only subject I know of, but I think there is a Dog's Head mount known. I have to dig into my images file Monday and see if I can find it.

[RCMcKenzie]

Nice card, Jay. I don't remember seeing an n173 boxer before. REA or another auction house had a non-sport n173 cabinet recently. It was some obscure foreign politician. I guess customers could ask for an n173 with any image they wanted, as long as Goodwin & Co had it.

[oldjudge]

Thanks Adam, Dogs Head cabinet or small card with Dogs Head ad on the back? I think I have seen the latter.

Rob-The politician in REA was an Australian issue. I believe the Slavin is also Australian. For years I have tried to find an Australian checklist similar to the lists that have been found for baseball players in the U.S. However, I have thus far been unsuccessful.

[RCMcKenzie]

Here are some larger scans of the n174 Slavin. It seems to have a very faint "OLD JUDGE" font on the caption portion of the card. I added a link from Bill C's site which shows everyone the Australian font. I know there are a few different fonts that JoeG was describing in a thread the other day. It's good to know that other Australian n174's could be found with the n173 format...The Slavin is in an SGC 20 holder. It is about as faded as a card can get to me...Rob

www.thetraderspeaks.com/n174-old-judge/

[oldjudge]

Rob-As you probably know, there are many boxers that appeared in Old Judge sets that are not shown on that site. I only have short number and “0” number boxers amongst the small cards, but quite a few, like Ike Weir, are not shown.

[RCMcKenzie]

Jay, I was trying to show an un-faded Australian type font like he has on there. I may have some in my collection, but he already had some scanned on there...Here is the non-sport Australian card he has(Spurgeon)...

Some of the boxers with the "hot dog" logo almost look like they belong in n172...Here are a few boxer types that I have...

[oldjudge]

Burdick did not do a good job cataloging Goodwin & Co cards. For starters, there is no one Old Judge set, just like there is no one Topps set. There were many sets issued over a number of years, in the case of Old Judges over the period from 1886-90. Many of the earlier Old Judge sets were not solely baseball sets, but multiple topic sets which included boxers, other athletes, actors and actresses, politicians, etc. The script cards were a multiple subject set, as were the low number cards and the “0” number cards. In the Old Judge book we catalog the later two sets in the Appendix section. Unfortunately, there are still some holes in our cataloging of these sets, although far less now than when we did the book almost twelve years ago.
The cards with the floating sausage Old Judge logo are from the script series. They do belong with the script baseball players. They are not a separate set.

[RCMcKenzie]

I was thinking these author cards were Australian, but I noticed the captions were very similar to this Mutrie. The Mutrie has an additional copyright line by Goodwin, 1888. I notice that the Mutrie I have has a little different caption format than the 336-1 in y'all's guide.

The set is easier to tackle when you break it down into different series and categories or teams and players, than trying to see it as one gigantic set of historical figures. I'm still learning, but I also forget about as fast as I learn. Rob

[oldjudge]

I think the author cards are either from here or British (yes, there are British ones too). As I remember, the British cards have fonts similar to ours. They are neat though.
To further complicate matters, some 1890 Players’ League cards have a different font than on 1889 cards. The letters appear slightly thinner.

[Exhibitman]

I checked my image file and I misremembered--Slavin has a regular OJ mount, no Dog's Head.

[RCMcKenzie]

Thanks for all the information, Jay

------


Here are a few T229 PET cigarettes w/ Al Kaufman...I guess I am working on this set now, too. Rob

[oldjudge]

Nice cards Rob!

[Exhibitman]

A few German cards:

I haven't seen too many of these Haus Bergmann cards floating around:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/img851%20-%20Copy.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/img852%20-%20Copy.jpg

And a pair of Greilings, Schmeling and Siki:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/Greiling%20Serie%20Boxer%20Schmeling%201.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/Greiling%20Serie%20Boxer%20Schmeling%202.jpg
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[Bill77]

Just got this in the mail today.

[sebie43]

Picked up a few tough series T225 Series 2 and finally got ahold of my silver Jackson to make it 23https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200216/fb663473b3fd4413e0cff2718c003d99.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200216/28812fdd3d82e70d1e129ee535bac833.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200216/f69eee43d2ce2a0e575c97e75c478429.jpg

[Exhibitman]

Nice; I assume Corbett and Donovan are the missing two?

As for me, more stuff:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/boxingpremiums/websize/1933%20Corbett-McLarnin%20Ticket.jpg

Ticked all the boxes for me:

--Los Angeles area arena
--Two HOFers fighting for a title
--Nice graphics.

[LuckyLarry]

I'm slowly working on my second set of "collector grade" 1955 Parkhurst wrestling Ebay pick up $4 delivered to cheap to pass up!
Larry

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=542&pictureid=28082https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=542&pictureid=28083

[camaro69]

I'm slowly working on my second set of "collector grade" 1955 Parkhurst wrestling Ebay pick up $4 delivered to cheap to pass up!
Larry

https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=542&pictureid=28082https://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=542&pictureid=28083

Larry,if you ever get an extra #104 that you may want to part with PLMK.I have some extras that you could maybe use one for your set. I am not looking for anything special as far as condition goes.Something VG will be just fine as long as there is no paper lose.

[RCMcKenzie]

Be well, gang.

[GregZakwin]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v7kXa7TnC9U/XoD79nsFjaI/AAAAAAAAXko/PEyOjc0ZRjQXcev0tZXm_KZUNhsWklo7ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Henry%2BArmstrong%2B%252738%2BChurchman%2527s%2BBo xing%2BSGC%2B55.jpg

[Jcfowler6]

Just started dipping my toes into the boxing part of the hobby. I remember my dad showing me his exhibit boxing and wrestling cards when I was a kid. No idea where they went but they were from his youth. He is gone now but I remember how he liked them so wanted to get something that reminded me of him.

Not sure if this is as cool as I find it.

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[GasHouseGang]

Thanks for posting pictures of the cards in the album. I have the set but hadn't seen them in the album.

[camaro69]

Really like them in that album.They display so well. Thanks for sharing.

[G1911]

Not rare or expensive (this copy was $29.16 net), but one of my favorite old boxing cards, as it features the Burns-Johnson fight in 1906. Burns remains one of my favorite old timers and, I think, an underrated boxer. He weighed in at 168 pounds for his fight against Johnson. Burns was only 5'7, but defended his title successfully 11 times in less than 3 years, one of the most active champions of all time. Johnson was about 6'1, weighed in at 192 for this fight (and was usually heavier during his title reign). Johnson won of course, taking the crown after the police stopped the fight in the 14th round, claiming a points victory by referee decision. Burns "was beaten, but he was game" as Johnson said. Burns was the first to defend his title around the world.


Need 6 cards to complete the black back E79 set now, and 12 of the tough red back cards.

[Nonsensename1]

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[Exhibitman]

Great card, Ben. I guess I ran you up a bit on that.

[RCMcKenzie]

Frank, mark me down for 17/50...Also, who snagged the 3 BIN's for under $10 each? Yikes...I check every week, but I guess I need to set email alerts...Rob

[Nonsensename1]

Great card, Ben. I guess I ran you up a bit on that.

Ha, well I was still pretty pleased with the final price. And since you literally wrote the book on boxing cards I'll just take it as an affirmation of my taste?

[Exhibitman]

Ha, well I was still pretty pleased with the final price. And since you literally wrote the book on boxing cards I'll just take it as an affirmation of my taste?

Ok. Lampos are just popular and expensive. I was hoping to steal a deal.

[wrestlingcardking]

The Lampo Clay is one of my favorite cards of him......congrats!

[G1911]

Frank, mark me down for 17/50...Also, who snagged the 3 BIN's for under $10 each? Yikes...I check every week, but I guess I need to set email alerts...Rob

You need to finish your Tolstoi run so I can actually win some again ;). Very nice pickup, and interesting to see the price disparity on the 3 Tolstoi's this seller had. The Stone multiple set collectors needed closed a lot higher than the Northridge most have. 17 of them is no easy feat!

I was about 5 seconds too late on the 3 BIN's, that seller could have got far more if he knew what he had. He priced them the same as his Mecca and Hassan cards

[RCMcKenzie]

Thanks, G, like my paternal grandmother told me, "no good deed goes unpunished." When you explained to me that T218 Tolstoi had 50 cards, and provided a checklist, I went all-in, thinking I'm going to complete it. I promise not to hoard, and trade all my dupes..Rob 18/50

[G1911]

Thanks, G, like my paternal grandmother told me, "no good deed goes unpunished." When you explained to me that T218 Tolstoi had 50 cards, and provided a checklist, I went all-in, thinking I'm going to complete it. I promise not to hoard, and trade all my dupes..Rob 18/50

I fear I have simply been driving the price up on a couple of them for you, Rob! Were you the winner of the Young Donahue yesterday? I thought I stood a good chance with my bid but ended up being the third bidder. Looks like these cards great scarcity is no longer a secret. I am sitting at 20/50, 0 duplicates, including the Jack Johnson, but it has been some time since I've been able to add another one. 88% of the way through the whole T218 Master Set. It seems to me that most of us chasing the Tolstoi's all have most of the same cards (Like Jeffries, Northridge, Sedley, etc.), and nobody has got much further than half way on them. I have been tracking T218 since 2004, and I haven't seen more than maybe 10 Tolstoi backs at most of any one front.

- Greg

[RCMcKenzie]

Greg, yes, I got that one yesterday, here's a link to an old thread from 2003 that I started, naively talking about T218 Tolstoi. It does seem that some of the track guys are easier to find, maybe just a coincidence. Hopefully, higher prices will bring out more cards to the market and we can all complete our sets. Rob

www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=63361

[G1911]

Greg, yes, I got that one yesterday, here's a link to an old thread from 2003 that I started, naively talking about T218 Tolstoi. It does seem that some of the track guys are easier to find, maybe just a coincidence. Hopefully, higher prices will bring out more cards to the market and we can all complete our sets. Rob

www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=63361

We sure have learned a lot the last few years! Reading this makes me wish I could go back and pick them up for those prices. Congratulations on another one, I look forward to seeing your complete set one day.

I think each series was probably printed on more than 1 sheet layout, and that thus it's possible there are 2 levels of scarcity in the Tolstoi's. Jeffries, Gans and Langford seem 'common' among the boxers.

For the record and anyone else keeping track, here's what I have:
Leach Cross, W.C. Fielding, John Flanagan, Joe Gans, George Gardiner, Gissing, Harry Haywood, James Jeffries, Harry Jensen, Jack Johnson, W.J. Kramer, Smyth Northridge, Tommy O'Keefe, George Obermeyer, William Papke, Frank Riley, J.A. Ruddy, Harry Sedley Jr., Melvin Sheppard, C.C. Steinert

[Exhibitman]

The Lampo Clay is one of my favorite cards of him......congrats!

It's the same image as on about a dozen other Italian cards of the era, but Lampo made the best design and made the cards bigger than others, so they "win".

[david_l]

Hello all,

I don’t really post much but I’ve been selling some cards and meeting so many great people that I figured I should at least pop on, say thanks, and post some cards.

I’m a low grade pre-WWI boxing set builder. I’m also a Jack Johnson and Joe Jeannette “active career” collector. I started collecting Johnson cards about nine or so years ago. They were relatively cheap then and I managed to pick up the common ones and many of the harder ones. Things stalled about a year ago as prices went up. I resorted to making desperate posts in the BST looking for a low grade e77, Susini, etc.

... Then one evening (PST), Scooter729 posts a horrible condition e77 Johnson on eBay. Scott had once sold me one of my favorite cards in my collection, a N162 Sullivan. So, I proceed to absolutely blow up his inbox. He’s was really kind about it all. The rest is history. Thanks Scott!

The e77 is pretty rare but not one of my favorites. Why does it look like Jack is in the process of balding??

The Johnson fits in well with a stack of terrible condition e77s that I just bought from Rhy. As a low-grade set builder, it amazing to find nine cards from the e77s in a week!

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Finally, I made a trade with RC. Thanks so much! Even in bad shape it’s a gorgeous card.

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So thanks everyone! Thanks for helping me get further in a Johnson collection than I ever thought that I would. Also, thanks for purchasing some cards so I can feed the habit! It’s very much appreciated!

Be well!
David

[G1911]

Nice Johnson's David! And thanks for some of the cards here.


Recent pickups the last couple weeks or so; sometimes the back is better than the front. Choynski is rough, but knocks me up to 47/50 on the Tolstoi's.

[Exhibitman]

Nice cache of cards. I added a few premiums from the British periodical Boxing, ranging from 1909-1914. All three show Fred Welsh; the last one includes Willie Ritchie.

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[Tao_Moko]

Not sure how desirable or scarce this is, but I took a risk at a best offer and happy with the outcome. Just ordered Adam's book so I can educate myself better. Lifelong prewar baseball collector(35 years) but my passion is in contact sports so why not collect them. I have wrestled, practiced many different types of grappling and mixed martial arts in the Marines into my late 30's. I only played baseball to my sophomore year in high school :) Going to sell my bb cards and have fun on this side for awhile.

[Exhibitman]

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Well, welcome to Sherwood! Not only is it fun, it is waaaay cheaper than baseball card collecting.

[G1911]

Some from the last week or two, sadly these 3 were imprisoned but quickly liberated. The Choysnki silver doesn't belong in a SGC 3 holder anyways, as the card is significantly short and probably trimmed.


Starting to get into the British issues more as well (thank you davidl, for making me jump across the pond for my boxing fix now!). The Silvers keep stacking up.

[Exhibitman]

Wait till you catch the bug for the rest of the world's cards. You'll find yourself waiting breathlessly for deliveries from places like Venezuela, Singapore and Ukraine, and chasing obscure cards of Argentinean club fighters that even the boxer's mom doesn't care about.

[Tao_Moko]

Wait till you catch the bug for the rest of the world's cards. You'll find yourself waiting breathlessly for deliveries from places like Venezuela, Singapore and Ukraine, and chasing obscure cards of Argentinean club fighters that even the boxer's mom doesn't care about.

These guys are coming from Australia. I opted for terrible miscut and the kid. Overpaid at $60 apiece?

[david_l]

Not sure how desirable or scarce this is, but I took a risk at a best offer and happy with the outcome.

As Greg mentioned, I’m a big fan of those old British cards. The 1911 Boys’ Friends Jack Johnson cards are relatively rare. Not super scarce but much rarer than the Ogden’s Pugilists or the T218s. If I’m not mistaken, they were issued in panels of three boxers and hand cut. There’s only three cards to the set. Below is an example of what the three look like.

I’m not sure about those Australian cards as I don’t think I’ve ever seen them except from the seller you got yours from. Cool though.

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... and keeping with the spirit of this thread, here’s some nice additions to my Jeannette collection!

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[Exhibitman]

The Oz cards are 1922 Davies & Herbert Newcastle Boxers. Not an easy issue to find but one seller has been offering a brick of them in various permutations for quite some time on eBay. The only big name is Les Darcy.

[Exhibitman]

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Benny Leonard mounted photo. About 8 x 10.

[RCMcKenzie]

Here's a v153 Robertson Candy Robt. Fitzsimmons. This puts me at 1/20 on this set.

[GasHouseGang]

Picked up my first Goudey Sport Kings card.

[Exhibitman]

Nice looking SK.

[G1911]

More "the back is better than the fronts". Thanks davidl for the C52 and Gans. 2 more Tolstoi's, a miscut Goldman showing another Goldman on top, and some dupes for the Master sets.

[Exhibitman]

I've been working on a T225 Series 101 set. I've always liked the artwork and at 25 cards, ungraded, it won't be a bank or space breaker. Anyhow I am at 15/25 now and oddly enough 7 different backs.

[G1911]

I've been working on a T225 Series 101 set. I've always liked the artwork and at 25 cards, ungraded, it won't be a bank or space breaker. Anyhow I am at 15/25 now and oddly enough 7 different backs.

Fun, small, aesthetically pleasing, and cheap. What's not to love? I finished the basic, picking up random cards for the Master without intention of completing the 250 theoretical. Series 102 is kicking my rear though... I'm at like 15 cards after 15 years trolling eBay for them.

[G1911]

Yet another silver, I got to have about 30% of the total set POP report sitting in a shoebox cracked out now. Mitchell is one I needed for the T220 master set, now 9 cards short of completion. Coburn is a tough variation with a blue man at left instead of the nearly missing black silhouette. a Tolstoi dupe in rough terrible condition I couldn't pass up for the price, and my first T227 boxer. Been picking up more of this set lately, gorgeous artwork.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Recently picked up a few new cards...



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[sthoemke]

Picked up a 1950's flying/target menko sheet (punch-out cards).

Boxer/wrestler Primo Carnera is on the top left.

Rikidozan, the father of Japanese pro-wrestling is in the center.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Happy to pick up this little gem.


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[Exhibitman]

The Nebraska Wildcat. Noice.

A few for me:

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[CobbSpikedMe]

The Nebraska Wildcat. Noice.


Thanks Adam, I really liked the big borders on the left and bottom.

[Exhibitman]

Bottom of the sheet. Used to own one.

[Bill77]

My 1st Turkey Red.

[sthoemke]

Picked up a Big League Card of Homer Gibbins.

Signed and notarized by himself.

I believe it is his only card.

[Bill77]

A little Al Kaufman to go with my big Al Kaufman. Is it common for T225's to not have factory numbers?

[Bugsy]

I just picked this one up. I was a little apprehensive that it could have been a reprint, but it wasn't being sold as autographed, it seems to match other examples, and you can tell seeing it in-person that it's on the photo, not part of the print. He died in 1924, so his signatures are beyond scarce.

[Bugsy]

I just picked this one up. I was a little apprehensive that it could have been a reprint, but it wasn't being sold as autographed, it seems to match other examples, and you can tell seeing it in-person that it's on the photo, not part of the print. He died in 1924, so his signatures are beyond scarce.

This one seems to have come from the same photo session.

https://www.kevinsavagecards.com/lot-115219.aspx#