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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: Mike Williams
Great, constructive debate over the SGC "authentic" topic! |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: Jay Miller
It is like so many other things in our society. People have lost the ability to do things for themselves and have to delegate the task to others. People need to be able to figure out for themselves if a card is doctored or not. Ideally, you should know more about the cards you collect than the guy at SGC or PSA. I find it interesting that when collecting was a hobby and the word investment never entered into the same sentence as baseball card, collectors knew alot about what they collected. Now that serious money is being spent on these little pieces of cardboard I believe the average collector knows less about what he collects. Seems a little backwards. |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: runscott
I think all these board discussions have helped each of us make our minds up how to deal with the fact that "card grading" isn't going away. |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: leon
You know I value your opinion very highly in these matters. With that being said how is it someone like myself, that got addicted quickly and recently, could have enough knowledge to spend big bucks on cards and still have some comfort the card is not doctored? I guess I could ask friends and associates? What I am saying is that when I spend good money on a card I like to have a trusted 3rd party tell me if they can spot anything I can't. The grading companies (at least SGC)are pretty good at that. I can more decide what grade I think it is than I can see the doctoring that might be hiding.....regards |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: Jay Miller
The answer is very simple. One should not spend big money on cards till they are comfortable that they understand what they are buying. To my way of thinking, acquiring the knowledge about your chosen area of interest is many times more enjoyable and rewarding than actually getting the cards. You can buy and sell cards many times over but the knowledge is yours forever. |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: leon
I am soaking in the knowledge as fast as I can but there's so dang much info. I got the Sotheby's Halper catalogues yesterday. I have stacks of other catalogues. I like having the cards and learning about the history of the players on them. Very enjoyable. I like collecting. I like helping fellow collectors. What more can I say? regards |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: petecld
Amen. |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: leon
When you lump everyone into one basket you miss the boat. Grading companies might be for investors but I tend to use them for what I have been preaching. "A 3rd party" unbiased opinion of doctoring. That is what collectors use them for. I am a collector and could care less about investors that are here for only a profit. With what you said I guess you aren't too concerned with the value of your cards either? I have not had ANY trust eroded from SGC...quite to the contrary I trust them MORE THAN ALMOST ANY DEALER OR PERSON I AM BUYING FROM. They are gaining more of my trust the longer I talk about it too. I won't name names but I can tell you that some that I have bought from (and consider friends) definitely overgrade/hype their cards. Want me to name some names? Just look on this board and you will see many. Put that in your pipe and smoke it !!...yes, I am starting to get a little agitated about all of you friggin experts (although maybe not you) that sell cards and say they are one thing when you know they are another ESPECIALLY when dealing with folks like myself that have been doing this 1/5 the time of a lot of folks !!!!..hard to take advantage of an expert isn't it? Much harder than taking advantage of Leon isn't it.. (but I will be there soon).....and best regards |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: jay behrens
When I got into the hobby back in 1980 I didn't go out buy high dollar items right away. It wasn't until 1982 that I first spent over $100 on a single card. For those that were around then, you know just how much that was to pay for card back then. |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: petecld
Thank God for slow Friday afternoons, huh! |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: leon
ok fine.....you are right.....very slow day in sales...so time to jabber....dang I can't piss you off can I? You are correct that most are business relationships. I do speak to several board members on the phone fairly regularly though. I consider folks I talk to on the phone frequently friends. Maybe not my best friend but I care about them and I think they care a little in return...Scott B. is my mentor (sorry Scott) and I see him on a semi-regular basis. (like tomorrow)....I speak to BCD quite a bit too and email with him almost every day....loaded canon, passionate about the hobby and life, and very knowledgable...and a very caring person.....I speak with Jay to just see how things are going...I speak with Doug to see how things are going....I am not speaking with these folks just to try to further my own best interests...I speak with them because we have the hobby in common and I like them......I am 40 so I hope I am not naive in my thinking.....money is money though so I do try to be careful for my own good.....ain't quite broke yet (knock on wood)....so guess I am doing ok....best regards |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: Andy Baran
I feel left out. |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: leon
ANDY is a friend too best regards all...time to go get my a** kicked in racketball... |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: warshawlaw
We went to shows and bought only those cards we could handle is what we did. |
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What did we do before graded cards?????
Posted By: Andy Baran
I was only kidding. |
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