1912/13 George Moriarty photo help

[milkit1]

Just picked up this neat photo of George Moriarty that is labeled as being posed with Jesse Burkett. It appears to he from his family's collection but I cant tell the uniform that the other man is wearing. At first glance it appears to be Cleveland but it doesnt match any of the ones I've seen. Can anyone tell on this one?

Thanks

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[Pat R]

Hi Sean - If the photo is from 1912/13 Burkett would have been managing
Worcester.

[milkit1]

yeah I checked the worchester uniforms too and obviously they dont match. This one might be impossible to figure out. i gather the photo is from 1912/13 based on the Tigers uniform but I may be wrong there too

[Pat R]

Any idea who the Detroit player in the background is?

[Clutch-Hitter]

Looks like Bobby Veach.

Edit: in the foreground

[milkit1]

hard to tell. Looks like it came out of a scrapbook that was done between 1913-1915 so it almost certainly is 1913. Another factor that this may not be Burkett is that (assuming they are correct) Baseball reference lists Moriarty as 6 ft and Burkett at 5'8. The man is this pic looks to be possible an inch taller?

[Clutch-Hitter]

No way this is the tall guy

[milkit1]

Originally Posted by Clutch-Hitter

No way this is the tall guy

Yeah Burkett was allegedly only 5'8 and Moriarty was 6ft. The guy on the left looks to possibly be an inch taller

[JollyElm]

I worked the tone, contrast, etc., and enlarged it to show the three faces...

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[Mark17]

In 1912 Cincinnati wore shirts like that, with nothing on the chest and "C" on each sleeve.

Cincinnati had a coach in 1912, Heinie Peitz, who would've been 41 and looks something like the guy in the photo. He was 5' 11" which might be close enough to be him, considering Moriarty isn't standing straight up and the other guy is.

[milkit1]

Excellent work Mark! I think you maybe right. It does resemble Peitz. The only thing now throwing me off is his dark cap. Did the Reds use a dark cap with an emblem in 1912?