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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Jimmy
My wife was concerned about me spending money when we first got married, but then I had the idea of buying and selling to help pay the bills and my hobby. It may have taken her five years to understand, but the last few years she has been very supportive and helps me sometimes go through boxes I get from dealers, helps me take pictures and goes to the post office for me. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: JimB
Paul, |
#54
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Jason L
"If you are inclined to think that implies a redistribution of wealth, more power to you. Just leave my E93 Matty out of it." |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: peter chao
I am inclined to think that wealth should be in the hands of people that know how to handle the money. I have no problems with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett handling money because they know what to do with it. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: paulstratton
JimB, |
#57
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: David Smith
If I were rich and didn't give a damn about baseball cards, the players and the history of the game, I would buy every rare and high grade card out there for the next year. That would drive the prices up and take quality cards out of the market. |
#58
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: JimB
"Interesting that neither Rawls nor Nozick mentions high grade caramel cards." |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Dave Haas
Boxingcardman, |
#60
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
This has been a great thread as it really provides insight into our posters. Jim, as always, I appreicate everything you write (and appreciate that damn E93 Matty more); Brian, your words made me nearly laugh out loud and were also greatly appreciated. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Oh it is an investment allright. But if you are looking to collateralize a loan, your better off with a 7 year old pick up truck; a bank will lend you money on that. But that's ok. Just because those Simon Legree types think that pork bellies sound better than vintage cards, doesn't mean that it is true. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: barrysloate
This thread has been one of the most philosophically stimulating ones we have ever had, but as I interpret it, it all comes down to Jim B.'s E93 Mathewson. Nothing else seems to matter. Simply profound! |
#63
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: David Smith
Jeff L, |
#64
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: barrysloate
I brew my own Columbian/French Roast coffee every morning and boycott Starbuck's. They are just another symbol of what is wrong with America. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: E, Daniel
It takes out the stresses and less enjoyable moments of life and makes me feel good. How many other ways do I get to pamper myself and feel special for $4 ? With all the times I have to say no to myself and my family, be financially restrained to the point of disappointment, I believe maintaining a little inner happiness and zen is worth every buck. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: paulstratton
I think what Jeff means is that he is now planning to donate his Cobb collection to Peter C...I could be wrong though. |
#67
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: barrysloate
Daniel- if you had a mug of my fresh brewed coffee, you would swear off of Starbuck's. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: E, Daniel
If I could come over to your joint daily (which I'm sure is bright and airy ) and lean back on a kitchen chair while you brewed your meanest joe, chuckle a little about the daily do's and make the rest of the world fade from view - I'd never need Starbucks again . |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Jason L
from Australia to Kansas?! |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
After years of fooling around with coffee, my wife and I have settled on Papanicholas coffee. Their 5 star restaurant coffee. Whole bean. They don't wash the oil off of the beans, I think, and that is one of the ways they sell such great coffee. If you're always brand loyal and love Starbucks, don't try Papanicholas. You'll feel bad when you leave the green star... |
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Posted By: JimB
When I think of what I paid for it and the offers I have received on it, it seems like it was a good investment. However, I will wait a while before cashing in. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Don't make a green frappachino but do like a good cup of green tea. |
#73
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Jim, that card is like pornography to me. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: JimB
Jeff, |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: DD
That may very well be the sweetest card on the planet. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: peter chao
I'm partial to Seattle's Best which is in most Border's bookstores in the Bay Area. |
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Posted By: JimB
Thanks for all the kind words about my card. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Joe D.
its one of the ugliest cards I have ever seen. |
#79
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: JimB
Hi Joe, |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Joe D.
I didn't get the reply. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Brian Lindholme
So, I don't know if this means anything philosophical or will have any relevance to my portfolio, but the first time I meant the kind JimB was in a Starbucks in Portland. We had some relaxing warm drink (...okay it was coffee) and talked baseball cards, and played some show+tell with cards. |
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Posted By: JimB
That was a lot of fun Brian. We should definately do it again. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Fred C
Cardboard investments... wow, let's all go out there and start indiscriminantly dropping all of our expendable income on cardboard... oh yeah, we've already done that... |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: JimCrandell
Of course Bruce is correct here. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Fred, why can't cards be both? |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: barrysloate
I agree that cards are both. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: peter chao
Again, it goes back to what your investment goal is, it it's important to derive pleasure from your investments then baseball cards seems like a worthy investment. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: JimB
Peter, |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: JimCrandell
Anyone who has invested a lot in graded baseball cards in the last decade has been a genius. Doesn't mean they will continue to go up--maybe they won't--but no question it is a viable asset class that has the dual benefit of being fun. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Jim, I hate to hijack this thread but here's a thought that must have crossed your mind: if the price of a barrel of oil went back to $50 overnight --Iran goes bankrupt in how many months? |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: JimCrandell
Jeff, |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Fred C
Jeff, |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: John
You don’t seem to hear much in the way of barrels of crude oil having their edges spooned out to present better on the open market to investors, not much in the way of forged copies of stock certificates passed off as real. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Jim Crandell
Anyone who bought high end vintage graded sports cards 10 years ago could sell them today for multiples of what he paid for them-- today he is a genius. If they drop in half for whatever reason--not so smart. Baseball cards are relatively liquid and each auction confirms the investment appeal. Oil could drop in half too. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Fred C
Jeff, |
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Posted By: John
I have a feeling that most anyone who bought high end cards 10yrs ago wasn’t thinking purely of ROI, but more collecting cards and enjoying a hobby. Are they worth more today, sure but the same could be said of most anything from 10yrs ago. That doesn’t make anyone a genius IMO. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: davidcycleback
Whether or not baseball cards is an "asset class" is merely a rhetorical game. |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Fred C
The funny part is that there were lots of people speculating on rookie cards about 20 years ago. I wonder how much an 89 Upper Deck Griffey sells for today? I can remember people paying well over a hundred bucks for that card. Me, nope, I never really got caught up into it that much. I remember buying a pile of a hundred Dickerson (football) rookies for .39 each and a pile of a hundred Marino rookies for .49 each. I pretty much sold all the Marino's many years ago when people were paying a lot for that stuff. I was never into paying $100 for a rookie card that was only a few years old... now if you look at people that "invested" in those cards I'm sure you can find a lot of people shaking their heads (and kicking themselves in the butt) because of their "investments"... sure, some people made good money on that stuff but I don't see that happening again any time soon. Hold that thought... there are some people that still fuel a hyped card and pay tons for it... (Alex Gordon - Topps comes to mind...). |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Jim VB
Jeff- "...why can't I at last have an investment vehicle that gives me pleasure..." |
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Baseball cards as an asset class
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Jim, that's true -- the pimp does need to sample the merchandise... |
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