Who is this Old Judge player?

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Posted By: Tom L. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3277668848&category=31719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1

Anybody know?

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Posted By: Tom L.

Apparently the experts aren't going to respond until after the auction, as they are all clearly going after it.

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Posted By: Paul

A future Barry Sloate auction consignment.
Just hope the new board moderator delete any "rockeythebulldog" new thread asking to bid on that auction.

FOR GOD SAKE MAN, use the B/S/T thread like everyone else, you're not different!

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Posted By: jay behrens

Looks like Oberman made someone pay dearly for that cards.

Jay

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Posted By: Art M.

Pretty sure the team is Pittsburgh. Uniforms match many of the Pittsburgh players (Barkley, Bishop, etc.).
A recent Old Judge auction for an N172 Barkley, Pittsburgh even had the same background images as this card:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2790078081&category=31718

It looks a little like Bishop, Pittsburgh except the ball in the Bishop cards is white.

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Posted By: Jay Miller

The player is Dailey-Indianapolis. The uniform is a Boston uniform with the "BOSTON" whited out since Dailey moved from Boston to Indianapolis after the 1887 season. His 1887 card is with Boston; his subsequent cards are with Indianapolis. I have the 1889 card with exactly the same pose with the name, team and position at the bottom which is how I identified the card. As a side note I have seen alot of dumb purchases on ebay but this has to rank near the top (or at the top) of the list. The card is interesting since the name was omitted but there are plenty of cards that fall into that category. Interesting to me means it is worth a little more than a common, which Dailey certainly is, not $3000+.

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Posted By: brian p

I guess one could say "Merkle's Boner" just wasn't strong enough to win this card.

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Posted By: MW

Jay,

When you write "there are plenty of cards that fall into that category" exactly how many do you mean? 5? 10? A couple dozen? Or is this just a guesstimate on your part?

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Posted By: Bill Cornell

Paul-

The new moderator (i.e., me) isn't entirely clear about your request, but he thinks he gets it...

Posts about collecting OJ's will always get a huge amount of latitude, as the moderator recognizes this as a medical condition. Collecting them, that is.

Bill

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Posted By: JC

Correct me if I'm wrong... Rocky is Jay and buying_sgc_cards is Brian from BMW after reading the comments from his feedback... I was trying to bid 1250.00 as a last second snipe... I could not belive it would not take my bid! There are less than 5 of these cards in my most humble opinion...

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Posted By: Julie

who won the N162s, same seller, same closing time. or are these, too, overpriced?

Bill, you are certainly not in error calling N172s a medical necessity--or whatever you called them! If I wasn't going to be disected by the University of San Francisco Medical School, I'd probably be buried with mine...

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Posted By: MW

JC,

I too have seen very few of these...as a result, I didn't feel that a standard multiplier really applied (as it would for say Brown's Champs, spotted ties or Player League cards). Therefore, I didn't have a problem paying a high amount (my actual bid was $5K).

I think it's a fantastic card. I was happy to have won it.

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Posted By: JC

Yes, I agree... Does that mean you are going to stay off the next one that gets listed? Us poor folks try to use Ebay as a flea market where you can find GEMS at bargin prices... You'll be in business if Jay Miller gets with Bob lemke and educates him on the Old Judge values for the ones without any names for the 2005 book.

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Posted By: Jay Miller

I would guess that there are about 10-15 players who have post-1887 cards without the name/team/position banner at the bottom. I say post-1887 because obviously the 1887 script series was intentionally made without this banner.I believe the post-1887 cards without banners were a mistake and at least some if not most were corrected to include the banner. The most common such card is Werrick who I think appeared on ebay over the last month or two with very little fanfare. As I said in my prior post I think this is an interesting card and I hope it makes an enjoyable addition to your collection.