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Old 07-11-2019, 06:11 PM
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the service just putting purple labels that are extremely nice for the grade? I'm a little confused here.

I snipped your post, to essentially say what this "Purple Label" is all about.

My thinking that it could be even more useful if it were to help scan for alterations/card doctoring.......... well thats just me and wishful thinking....
I believe this would be a great way to combine two semi "grading/card altering detection" directions.
Regardless, I think I can see where this is going, and I personally don't mind the "Purple Label".
Do I as an "informed collector" necessarily need this? No, we all know that here.
But let's not forget we are the minority on these boards.

"Perezfan" said "I agree that a service of identifying forgeries would have merit. But the authenticators would have to really know their stuff. Currently there is NO ENTITY in the entire hobby who is looking out for the customer. Who is in our corner when it comes to identifying and eliminating fraud in the hobby?
The answer is no one. We are left to do it ourselves."


"Perezfan" is correct. We are essentially left to police what we purchase ourselves. Sure, its always been that way, but all this widespread "doctoring" is a much bigger issue than we thought.
Any and all "card doctoring detection methods", would probably be difficult, and could only offer an "opinion of protection". (Say any TPG could only reasonably say with 95% certainty that something is "unaltered".....we all know we can never eliminate it all. That 95% might mean something to many of us)

I think this "Purple Label" COULD be a positive thing, and the hobby probably could use that right now.
I'm sure many here won't agree, but thats why we are all here posting.

Now, to those few that poked a bit of fun at lowpopper.........
I get it. But I think the hobby could use a breath of fresh air right now, and at least at first glance, he is willing to put himself out there, show himself, and is willing to stand behind his product that he believes in.
Whether you personally agree with it or not, we could probably use a bit more of that right now in my eyes.
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:20 PM
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I snipped your post, to essentially say what this "Purple Label" is all about.

My thinking that it could be even more useful if it were to help scan for alterations/card doctoring.......... well thats just me and wishful thinking....
I believe this would be a great way to combine two semi "grading/card altering detection" directions.
Regardless, I think I can see where this is going, and I personally don't mind the "Purple Label".
Do I as an "informed collector" necessarily need this? No, we all know that here.
But let's not forget we are the minority on these boards.

"Perezfan" said "I agree that a service of identifying forgeries would have merit. But the authenticators would have to really know their stuff. Currently there is NO ENTITY in the entire hobby who is looking out for the customer. Who is in our corner when it comes to identifying and eliminating fraud in the hobby?
The answer is no one. We are left to do it ourselves."


"Perezfan" is correct. We are essentially left to police what we purchase ourselves. Sure, its always been that way, but all this widespread "doctoring" is a much bigger issue than we thought.
Any and all "card doctoring detection methods", would probably be difficult, and could only offer an "opinion of protection". (Say any TPG could only reasonably say with 95% certainty that something is "unaltered".....we all know we can never eliminate it all. That 95% might mean something to many of us)

I think this "Purple Label" COULD be a positive thing, and the hobby probably could use that right now.
I'm sure many here won't agree, but thats why we are all here posting.

Now, to those few that poked a bit of fun at lowpopper.........
I get it. But I think the hobby could use a breath of fresh air right now, and at least at first glance, he is willing to put himself out there, show himself, and is willing to stand behind his product that he believes in.
Whether you personally agree with it or not, we could probably use a bit more of that right now in my eyes.
Ok, so does it look for alterations or no?
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:46 PM
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Ok, so does it look for alterations or no?
Well, I don't think thats WHY they use these stickers, thats only for more "excellent eye appeal" examples.
But, I'm guessing if there is anything obvious, then maybe they act accordingly, see his comment I quoted for you below........

Promethius88 - Here is lowpopper's exact phrase, if you hadn't read all the thread you likely missed it.


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Regarding alterations/forgeries:
Any card that in which an alteration has been detected
has always been disqualified from receiving a sticker.
Trim-gate has only heightened our levels of detection.
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Old 07-11-2019, 08:58 PM
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Well, I don't think thats WHY they use these stickers, thats only for more "excellent eye appeal" examples.
But, I'm guessing if there is anything obvious, then maybe they act accordingly, see his comment I quoted for you below........

Promethius88 - Here is lowpopper's exact phrase, if you hadn't read all the thread you likely missed it.
Thank you for the clarification, Scott.

Is there a guarantee if they purple sticker a card that then turns out to be altered down the road? I guess my questioning is if they can detect alterations better than anyone else out there? I mean, THAT would be worth the price of admission.
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:32 PM
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I'd love to have a purple label stickered card just for the novelty of it to be honest. Problem is I probably would not pay a premium for the card. I have some third rate TPG slabs for the novelty of them and this would fit right in with those.
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:54 PM
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If you look up the gentleman’s eBay handle, 95% of what he sells is post-war. I’d certainly have to hear more out of him as to why he’s an expert at examining pre-war cards. He has a few Goudeys and T206s....but could he look at the more obscure stuff and be correct enough in his opinion if a Grennan Baking card is undergraded? Or worse, tampered with?
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I've bought and sold pre-war with Greg at shows. He's a knowledgeable guy.

I am always flabbergasted by people who need to be told what to buy and what not to buy (ahem Holygrail) but that's not a problem with Greg that's a problem with people who want to do everything the easy way.
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