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Old 08-19-2023, 10:34 AM
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When was the last time a sports team wasted the careers of not one, but two generational talents?
Mariners 1995 - Present.

90s = KGJ, ARod, Randy Johnson.... although they made the playoffs, could never get over the hill.

2005 - 2015 = Ichiro, Beltre, Felix Hernandez, Cano.

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Mariners 1995 - Present.

90s = KGJ, ARod, Randy Johnson.... although they made the playoffs, could never get over the hill.

2005 - 2015 = Ichiro, Beltre, Felix Hernandez, Cano.

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1992-1993 = Tony Gwynn, Fred McGriff, Gary Sheffield.

1994-2001 = Tony Gwynn and Trevor Hoffman.
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Old 08-19-2023, 07:48 PM
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1992-1993 = Tony Gwynn, Fred McGriff, Gary Sheffield.

1994-2001 = Tony Gwynn and Trevor Hoffman.
I do not consider their careers playoff wasted

Tony Gwynn was in 27 playoff games 3 different years
Trevor Hoffman in 12 playoff games in 4 different years
Fred McGriff won a World Series and in 5 different years and 50 playoff games
Gary Sheffield was in 44 playoff games over 6 different years and won a World Series championship

So they may not have done much with a particular team they all played multiple years in the playoffs and 2 of the 4 won a championship

Trout has never sniffed the playoffs
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trout has never sniffed the playoffs
2014.
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Unfortunately, 2014 was it for Trout and they lost 3-0 in their one series. Most years the Angels haven't been close to making it and the Pujols signing didn't work out as he declined over the time he was there. Trout chose to sign a long deal and stay. It will be interesting to see if the Angels are willing to offer Ohtani a big enough deal to make him consider staying.
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Unfortunately, 2014 was it for Trout and they lost 3-0 in their one series. Most years the Angels haven't been close to making it and the Pujols signing didn't work out as he declined over the time he was there. Trout chose to sign a long deal and stay. It will be interesting to see if the Angels are willing to offer Ohtani a big enough deal to make him consider staying.
IMO there is zero chance Ohtani stays. Past a certain point it's funny money and obviously there is no shortage of teams willing to make him fabulously rich. If he loves So Cal he can go to the Dodgers.
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IMO there is zero chance Ohtani stays. Past a certain point it's funny money and obviously there is no shortage of teams willing to make him fabulously rich. If he loves So Cal he can go to the Dodgers.
Peter, I agree that at a certain point you would think a little bit more money wouldn't matter, but it usually ends up being the highest bidder that signs the player so hard to believe it will be different with Ohtani.
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2014.
Stand corrected.

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