Help with Babe Ruth photos needed

[doug.goodman]

After the success with finding info on Bobo Newsom's picture, now I have a potentially more complicated, yet similar, request regarding the illustrious Mr. Ruth :

First, an explanation of the reason for my questions, I am attempting to date the releases of the m113 & m114 Baseball Magazine posters, and it's often not very straightforward.

So, here are five of the Babe's seven m114 posters, numbered in random order, I'm looking to find the year the approximate date that each photo was taken, and/or the earliest uses of each photo.

The Standard Catalog lists the following releases of Ruth posters :
1916 pitching
1920 batting, no stands in background
1933 batting, stands in background
1943 portrait
1947 portrait
1954
1957

There are ads in the magazine for Ruth posters starting with these issues :
Dec-16
Jul-20 (but I believe the ad started as early as Nov 1919)
Dec-33
Nov-43
Dec-44
Dec-47
Sep-54

I believe the 1916 & 1920 catalog dates (and the Dec-16 & no later than July-20 ad dates) are his Red Sox photos, which I have not included in this post (and that fit the catalog descriptions, which aren't always right).

I have a version of poster #4 that says at the bottom "Now Playing the Keith Circuit", which is a vaudeville circuit that Ruth performed on in the winter of 1921. That would seem to date it's release to a year where the catalog doesn't show one (which is not without precedent).

I feel like this post is more confusing than I had hoped (but these posters are confusing, that's part of why I love them), please feel free to ask any questions either here or via email.

Many thanks in advance to all who try to help,
Doug


PS - I am looking for scans of the poster ads from these issues of Baseball Magazine :
1909 Sept
1910 Jan
1911 May, Nov
1914 Mar, June
1918 Apr, Oct, Dec
1919 Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, June, Aug, Sept, Nov, Dec
1920 all but July
1921 all but Jun & Aug
1922 Jan, Mar, Apr, June, July, Aug,Dec
1923 May, June, July, Nov, Dec
1924 all but Oct
1925 Jan, Mar, June, July
1926 Jan, Oct, Nov, Dec
1927 Jan, Mar
1928 Jan, Mar, Aug
1933 June
1935 Nov
1937 Sept

[bobw]

#3 The image is on Getty, this is the caption....."Yankees' baseball champion, Babe Ruth, preparing to bat at the opening game at the Polo Grounds, New York, on April 22, 1920.".....but Getty's date and descriptions are sometimes very suspect.



#5 also on Getty. Caption says from 1927.........but once again, Getty's date and descriptions are sometimes very suspect.



#7 is from the old Lexibell files...it is from 1942 before one of the exhibitions with Walter Johnson

[doug.goodman]

Thank you Bob.

I found the exact #7 photo as a type 1 by Greene from the baseball Magazine archives, dated 1942 by one of the opinion sellers, and #4 as a type 1 International photo from the Baseball Magazine archives, dated 1920 by the same opinion sellers, in Heritage auctions.

And #6 as a type 1 Associated Press dated Sept 16, 1932 in an RMY auction.

[Leon]

Great poses shown. Good luck in the search, Doug.

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

After the success with finding info on Bobo Newsom's picture, now I have a potentially more complicated, yet similar, request regarding the illustrious Mr. Ruth :

First, an explanation of the reason for my questions, I am attempting to date the releases of the m113 & m114 Baseball Magazine posters, and it's often not very straightforward.

So, here are five of the Babe's seven m114 posters, numbered in random order, I'm looking to find the year the approximate date that each photo was taken, and/or the earliest uses of each photo.

The Standard Catalog lists the following releases of Ruth posters :
1916 pitching
1920 batting, no stands in background
1933 batting, stands in background
1943 portrait
1947 portrait
1954
1957

There are ads in the magazine for Ruth posters starting with these issues :
Dec-16
Jul-20 (but I believe the ad started as early as Nov 1919)
Dec-33
Nov-43
Dec-44
Dec-47
Sep-54

I believe the 1916 & 1920 catalog dates (and the Dec-16 & no later than July-20 ad dates) are his Red Sox photos, which I have not included in this post (and that fit the catalog descriptions, which aren't always right).

I have a version of poster #4 that says at the bottom "Now Playing the Keith Circuit", which is a vaudeville circuit that Ruth performed on in the winter of 1921. That would seem to date it's release to a year where the catalog doesn't show one (which is not without precedent).

I feel like this post is more confusing than I had hoped (but these posters are confusing, that's part of why I love them), please feel free to ask any questions either here or via email.

Many thanks in advance to all who try to help,
Doug


PS - I am looking for scans of the poster ads from these issues of Baseball Magazine :
1909 Sept
1910 Jan
1911 May, Nov
1914 Mar, June
1918 Apr, Oct, Dec
1919 Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, June, Aug, Sept, Nov, Dec
1920 all but July
1921 all but Jun & Aug
1922 Jan, Mar, Apr, June, July, Aug,Dec
1923 May, June, July, Nov, Dec
1924 all but Oct
1925 Jan, Mar, June, July
1926 Jan, Oct, Nov, Dec
1927 Jan, Mar
1928 Jan, Mar, Aug
1933 June
1935 Nov
1937 Sept

[sporteq]

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