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Old 09-22-2023, 01:06 PM
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Might be glue stains from the photo.

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Need help from the cleaning experts on this one. Picked up this 74 team pennant the other day. Been cleaning with water / bleach mixture and so far its done pretty good at getting the brown out. Issue I have is the photo was so bad I had to cut it out and there are some stains that just won't go away. I've tried using retro clean on the stains with no luck. Before I go to just straight bleach does anyone else have a suggestion. I only paid $25 for it so if I ruin it I wont be heart broken.
That pennant is definitely bleachable. You just need to be sure to cover the spine and not get the bleach near the spine or it'll get discolored.

Fair warning. bleaching can cause colors to bleed.

Rob has posted photos and instructions in the past. But in short, use masking tape to fix the pennant in a shower. (The spine should be at the top and the tip pointing down.) Ensure the masking tape is covering the whole of the spine. Get a bottle of spray bleach and spray the pennant working you're way from the area near the spine to the tip. Leave it to sit for 10 mins (maybe more). Then rinse (while still keeping the spine covered).
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Since we have no oversized 1910's pennants to talk about, let's discuss these stiff orange things a little more..

First of all, is the original "crowd at feet" Giants pennant AdFlag? It kind of seems that way, but Kyle does not show it in his blog. I actually kind of like this pennant, with the adoring crowd of men, women and a kid. All it's missing is a dog! Kyle does show Marc's Astos pennant as being AdFlag.

Now, for the stiff orange things.. besides the orange "crowd at feet" and New York Giants "Giant in the Polo Grounds," there's also this one. It's a remake of a non-AdFlag (Trench?). This one is available for the bargain price of $99.99. These three are, obviouly, all Giants. Were they done with other teams/designs? I don't think AdFlag did them because Kyle says AdFlag was out of the sports pennant business in the mid 60s. These seem later.

Speaking of Kyle...I'm jonesing for some new content on Pennant Fever. I know he's busy but he teased an article on AMCO(?).
The tiny fans worshiping the Giant pennant looks like ADFLAG's work, to me.

Those two repros you showed--originally done in the 1950s by Trench--were released around 1980 by ... Trench, best I can tell. They remade a few of their 1950s-era designs, and these repros were sold for a few years. Later versions of the repro will be framed in white, because they were printed on white felt.

New content posted on Pennant Factory just this month. New piece being written, as we speak, for Pennant Fever due out in a few weeks.
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Old 09-23-2023, 08:33 AM
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New content posted on Pennant Factory just this month. New piece being written, as we speak, for Pennant Fever due out in a few weeks.
Wow! I’m way behind on your recreations! That will give me something to read while I wait for your next pennantfever blog.

It’s a shame I hate all “your” teams.
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Picked this one up this weekend. This is the first example of this particular pennant I've found that hadn't faded to gray.

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Picked this one up this weekend. This is the first example of this particular pennant I've found that hadn't faded to gray.

That’s a beauty!
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Agreed. That Braves pennant looks to be in excellent condition. Great pickup.
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Picked this one up this weekend. This is the first example of this particular pennant I've found that hadn't faded to gray.

Great pickup. Tough one, let alone in that condition. Very nice find!
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I cannot understand the auction mentality of some people.

I was watching a pennant auction. Starting price was $9.00 and it’s probably a $30 pennant. With 3 days left in the auction, someone jumped the bid from $9 to $33. Why?

I can’t understand why people feel the need to bid so high with so many days left to go. Makes me crazy.
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I cannot understand the auction mentality of some people.

I was watching a pennant auction. Starting price was $9.00 and it’s probably a $30 pennant. With 3 days left in the auction, someone jumped the bid from $9 to $33. Why?

I can’t understand why people feel the need to bid so high with so many days left to go. Makes me crazy.
I kind of like when people do that because I get a feel of the demand before the last minute and I can adjust my final bids accordingly.

Sometimes, I'll even make a bid (not at my maximum) a few days before an auction ends to see who bites. If I see my bid is automatically outbid, then I know that someone has possibly put a high max bid. If I see two people outbid me in within an hour then I know that there are a number of keen bidders.
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I cannot understand the auction mentality of some people. I was watching a pennant auction. Starting price was $9.00 and it’s probably a $30 pennant. With 3 days left in the auction, someone jumped the bid from $9 to $33. Why? I can’t understand why people feel the need to bid so high with so many days left to go. Makes me crazy.
I think one theory is that a high early bid going into the close will drive out some of those who might otherwise get caught up in the last-minute frenzy and keep bidding past their original intention. Or perhaps they don't snipe and just want to put in their max bid early in case they forget about or don't want to have to remember to do any more bidding. And doesn't the jump mean there is an underbidder at about the same level, and if so how can it be seen as unreasonable? To me, it's always seemed the best approach to put in your max bid early and let it ride. If you're really intent on grabbing something, put in a big max bid. That's just me, however.
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I don't know if anyone on my post in the pin thread, but I posted this recent pick-up there. The reason I'm posting here is to ask if anyone here knows (or thinks) these may be ASCOs. I've asked around and the Braves experts I know really had nothing to add. BMW currently has the Mathews listed on Ebay and I've seen a couple others (both Mathews). They are photos mounted to cardboard surrounded by a felt frame.



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One more question. If you've purchased a pennant that came with a bamboo cane what do you do with it? Is there any way to display a pennant on the cane?
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I don't know if anyone on my post in the pin thread, but I posted this recent pick-up there. The reason I'm posting here is to ask if anyone here knows (or thinks) these may be ASCOs. I've asked around and the Braves experts I know really had nothing to add. BMW currently has the Mathews listed on Ebay and I've seen a couple others (both Mathews). They are photos mounted to cardboard surrounded by a felt frame.



I do believe these are ASCO or Wincraft. I have not seen these before, but they look very similar and with the rarity of Wisconsin related photos pennants, it wouldn’t surprise me at all.
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I don't know if anyone on my post in the pin thread, but I posted this recent pick-up there. The reason I'm posting here is to ask if anyone here knows (or thinks) these may be ASCOs. I've asked around and the Braves experts I know really had nothing to add. BMW currently has the Mathews listed on Ebay and I've seen a couple others (both Mathews). They are photos mounted to cardboard surrounded by a felt frame.



Never seen anything like these....

Could be ASCO's work; but, most of their photo pennants from the 1960s had their mark printed on the backs of their photos.

Interesting pieces!
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Hey, just a heads-up to announce a new TSOG episode that focuses on 2 beautiful early teens pennants. Two of my favorites of all-time. Hope you'll view it and give it a "like" or subscribe, if you see fit.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzJ4gSU09MU
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Another great episode Mark.
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Hey, just a heads-up to announce a new TSOG episode that focuses on 2 beautiful early teens pennants. Two of my favorites of all-time. Hope you'll view it and give it a "like" or subscribe, if you see fit.

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Enjoyed it Mark. I may be mistaken, but is there a midsize version of this Cubs pennant? Seems I remember hearing about at one time.
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Enjoyed it Mark. I may be mistaken, but is there a midsize version of this Cubs pennant? Seems I remember hearing about at one time.
Thanks Gary and Mike...

No midsize version that I am aware of. But there is an oversized version. Mastro had one before going defunct. The Reproduction Company made both the Cubs and Athletics vertical pennants in 3/4 and Oversize. For whatever reason, the Athletics pennant seems to outnumber the Cubs by about 5 to 1.
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Absolute things of beauty!
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Thanks Gary and Mike...

No midsize version that I am aware of. But there is an oversized version. Mastro had one before going defunct. The Reproduction Company made both the Cubs and Athletics vertical pennants in 3/4 and Oversize. For whatever reason, the Athletics pennant seems to outnumber the Cubs by about 5 to 1.
Thanks Mark. I thought I remembered two different sizes.
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