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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: Max Weder
Many of us have heard stories about how Curt Flood and Tommy McDonald (former Eagles wide receiver) were both accomplished portrait artists. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: scgaynor
That would be because I didn't know that. You learn something new every day. Although, in my defense, it has been a common hobby assumption that he was the artist, especially since his signature appears in the lower corner of the paintings that he promoted. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: Max Weder
Hi Scott |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: davidcycleback
The boxer Mickey Walker was a talented painter, primitive-style. Interestingly, none of the paintings |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: Joe Tocco
"That would be because I didn't know that." |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: scgaynor
If you used the contact form under the "internet Only" section, then there is a problem as I never got it. If you just used the normal "contact us" form, it goes to New York and I don't see it unless somebody forwards it to me. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: Joe Tocco
Sure thing Scott, and I apologize if my first post sounded condescending. Next time I'll just call. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: scgaynor
Sounds good, thanks again. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: leon
Scott is one of the easiest guys to work with I know. He is also very shrewd when it comes to advertising . |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: davidcycleback
I'd seen a number of McDonald paintings over the years and didn't know he wasn't the artist until Max brought it up in this thread. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: Ed Ford
Curt Flood was an artist. I own a print of a painting he did of Martin Luther King Jr., the original which hangs in the MLK Museum. There is ample evidence that Curt Flood painted this and many other portraits including teammates, the Pope etc. His artistry is discussed in his autobiography and 2 or 3 other biographies of this man. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: davidcycleback
Maybe the McDonald paintings were by Curt Flood |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
What impact does this new information have on the value of the painting? |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: davidcycleback
I just looked at the final price, and think it's a fair price. If someone wants to plus or minus the, that's fine. It's nice looking, large and took a skilled painter to make it. A painting isn't a poster or photo, in that it takes the painter literally hours or more to make it and requires quite a bit of skill-- skill that most don't have. If a Negro League specialist likes and displays the painting, I think the price is fair enough ... Having said that, the name of the painter, or at least that he has a prestigous background (art shown in some museum or a former artist for Sports Illustrated), does effect price ... Apparently, while he did not paint the portraits, McDonald had the paintings made for his purposes. If you can, as is the case here, say your painting was commissioned and owned by a Pro Football Hall of Famer, that's about as significant as saying the painter is well known. As you'd expect, most sports painting collectors would get a kick to find out that a painting was commisioned by George Brett, Rollie Fingers or whomever. You may be able to inquire and discover that the painter is someone of note-- I say this as the paintings are of a skill level high enough to be done by a professional and perhaps someone we've heard of. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
David, |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: davidcycleback
To me it would depend on where the painting was displayed. Apparently McDonald has provided paintings for the Heisman Trophy club, Universty of Oklahoma and the Baseball All-Star Game. If your painting was made for such prestigous display, that would more than make up for the lack of it being painted by McDonald. Any time a painting has been displayed in a museum or at a university or such, that will raise the value significantly. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: scgaynor
Ryan, I understand your concern. I just sent you an e-mail to see how you want to proceed. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: Max Weder
Ed |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: Ed Ford
Max, after your last post I had to read the Flood book.The book is very interesting and very well researched. There certainly is a basis for the author's opinion that the Flood did not do his own paintings but I don't believe the proof is conclusive but is persuasive. I am looking at my Martin Luther King print of the painting by Flood as I type this post. I want to believe Flood painted the original, that McGwire never did steroids, that Slaughter did not intentionlly spike Jackie Robinson, that Pete Alexander was not drunk when he struck out push-em-up Tony in the 26 Series. At least no one can diminish Stan the man Musial. |
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Baseball Art II (and Football) and why things aren't always as they seem Lelands Jan 2007
Posted By: Hal Lewis
You spoke too soon. |
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