Sam Jones Help (Baseball)

[stat192]

There were 2 Sam Jones who played, one who debuted in 1914 and one who debuted in 1951.

The 14 Sam Jones called himself Sad Sam Jones. I have the below autograph which I always thought was the 1951 Sam Jones, but it is signed Sad Sam Jones.

The GPC is postmarked from Cleveland on May 20, 1952, and the 1951 Jones was playing for Cleveland that year.

So which Sam Jones do I have, and if it is the 1951 one, why would he sign his name Sad Sam Jones.

Please help.

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[Republicaninmass]

I believe they were both Sad Sam, and that looks like the earlier player. The latter player his signature is not as clean, but is is rare and havent seen more than a few

[stat192]

that is what is confusing me i think its the earlier player but whats the chance of having a postmark from cleveland ohio in 1952

[Republicaninmass]

One in 50

[uga1980]

The autograph you have is of Sam Jones who pitched for the Cleveland Indians who was also referred to as "toothpick". There was a thread discussing the two variances on net54 before but I don't recall the actual post date.

[uga1980]

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=158940

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by uga1980

The autograph you have is of Sam Jones who pitched for the Cleveland Indians who was also referred to as "toothpick". There was a thread discussing the two variances on net54 before but I don't recall the actual post date.

The guy who was supposedly illiterate ?

Aaaand (from the thread) "whats odd is BOTH Sam Jones have similar signature slants up and to the right"


I'd wager the PSA examples with smooth writing are forgeries, as well as the 2 sgc signed slabbed examples