NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-18-2020, 04:33 AM
BuzzD's Avatar
BuzzD BuzzD is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: New York metro area
Posts: 677
Default Cree T206 Cycle back

I have a T206 Birdie Cree Cycle back. I collect Yankees but not in T206 in particular. I could not find any PSA graded for this back and only 4 in SCG. I have general impression that Cycles are in the mid range for back scarcity but only 4 graded?
Card Target has 2 sales, last in 2009. Is it really that scarce or am I missing something?
__________________
Buzz

PreWar NYAL cards, photos, etc.
WantList: Mendelsohns Marsans; Rose 760PC Niles; Koester Mitchell; Koester Ferguson;1924 Diaz Roettger
Successful deals with 60+ board members
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-18-2020, 06:21 AM
Pat R's Avatar
Pat R Pat R is offline
P@trick R.omolo
member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,323
Default

PSA has two in their pop reports a 2.5 and a 4. Cree is a 350 only subject
and looking at the PSA pop reports the majority of the 350 only subjects
have between 1-4 examples for that group.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-18-2020, 06:52 AM
swarmee's Avatar
swarmee swarmee is offline
J0hn Raff3rty
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Niceville FL
Posts: 6,902
Default

Something to remember about PSA Pop Reports: they didn't break out the backs on T206 by manufacturer until about 10 years ago. So some may just be marked T206 Birdie Cree and happen to also have Cycle backs. Those who had them graded early on would have had to pay PSA to reholder their card with the Cycle information to have it show up in the right place on the Pop report.

Also, many T206 collectors do not grade their cards. Even some working on various rarer backs, or back runs of certain players. So you can make some inferences, but they'll likely be clouded by doubt. Cree isn't a HOF'er, so it's not like a lot of Poor condition cards would be sent to PSA for grading, further skewing the Pop Report as a representative sample of cards out there.
__________________
--
PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-18-2020, 07:52 AM
nineunder71 nineunder71 is offline
Colton
Colt0n Eng.lish
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 1,024
Default

You are not missing anything, tough combo, congrats!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-18-2020, 10:59 AM
Luke's Avatar
Luke Luke is offline
Luke Lyon
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 3,937
Default

It's a tougher than average Cycle 350. I'd guess you'd be able to ask around 1.5x the going Cycle 350 non-HOF rate and probably get it if you sold.
__________________
ThatT206Life.com
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-18-2020, 11:04 AM
BuzzD's Avatar
BuzzD BuzzD is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: New York metro area
Posts: 677
Default

I must have picked it up maybe 35 years ago. Guess I will hang on to it a little longer.
__________________
Buzz

PreWar NYAL cards, photos, etc.
WantList: Mendelsohns Marsans; Rose 760PC Niles; Koester Mitchell; Koester Ferguson;1924 Diaz Roettger
Successful deals with 60+ board members
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-18-2020, 09:51 PM
Ronnie73 Ronnie73 is offline
Ron Kornacki - Uncle Nacki
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,002
Default

It's a nice find and compared to so many other cards out there, your card has rarity and true value. Regardless of the flawed population reports. I always look at my list and if I don't have it yet, I put it as a slightly more difficult than average card. I was buying a lot at one point over a 3 year period. So if something didn't show up during that time period, I tend to currently look at it as a lower than average population. Now obviously my way of saying, if I don't have it yet, it's rare, is very flawed and outright stupid, but many of the cards I'm missing are a bit harder to come by and don't show up as often. I currently have an EPDG, Old Mill, and Sovereign 350 for that particular card front.
__________________
Ron - Uncle Nacki

T206 Master Monster Front/Back Set Collector - www.youtube.com/unclenacki
T206 Basic "The Monster" Set 514/524
T206 Advanced "Master Monster" Front/Back Set ????/5258
COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS
Old Mill Southern Leagues - Black Ink 48/48
Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 Full Color "No Prints" 28/28
NEAR COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS
Polar Bear 245/250
Sovereign 460 50/52
Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 649 Overprint 31/34
Piedmont 350 "Elite 11" 9/11

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-19-2020, 04:27 AM
Kevin Kevin is offline
Kevin from Franklin Square, LI
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Long Island
Posts: 662
Default

Thank you so much for posting. I started looking at my T206s again during the pandemic as everyone was posting ticket stubs, cards while they were looking for something to occupy their time on Twitter. I only have one Cycle, and it’s Fred Merkle 460. Card is in “beater” condition. But there he is, throwing the ball. I did similar and looked and only 3 or 4 others are graded. Thanks for the post and the knowledgeable responses
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:09 AM.


ebay GSB