Need Some Expert Advice - Results of Soaking

[Pat R]

It's an odd assortment, of the 86 genuine T206's only 2 are 150/350 subjects the rest are 350 and 350/460 subjects.

The bottom 2 rows look like sections that came out of a book or magazine but it's hard to tell from your pictures.

[EddieP]

Here’s a nice tutorial:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...=Soaking+cards

[Buythatcard]

Originally Posted by EddieP

Here’s a nice tutorial:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...=Soaking+cards

Thanks. I was looking for these directions. I used them a few years ago with much success.

[Buythatcard]

Originally Posted by Pat R

It's an odd assortment, of the 86 genuine T206's only 2 are 150/350 subjects the rest are 350 and 350/460 subjects.

The bottom 2 rows look like sections that came out of a book or magazine but it's hard to tell from your pictures.

How can you determine that without actually seeing the backs?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

How can you determine that without actually seeing the backs?

Hi Howard, you don't need to see the backs to know what print group each subject is in, Herzog (New York) and Sheckard (no glove) are the only print group 1 (150/350) subjects in the group of 86 genuine T206's.

Here's the breakdown of the print groups in the collage

Print group 1 (150/350) = 2
Print group 2 (350) only = 51
Print group 3 (350-460) = 24
Print group 4 (460 only) = 4
Print group 5 (super prints) = 5

[Buythatcard]

If we decide to soak these cards in water to hopefully remove the backs, would it be considered altering the card? Would SGC grade a card that was soaked in water?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

If we decide to soak these cards in water to hopefully remove the backs, would it be considered altering the card? Would SGC grade a card that was soaked in water?

Soaked cards can be graded numerically but if there are traces of the soak they will be downgraded. That is my experience. Your mileage may vary...
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[Buythatcard]

Originally Posted by Leon

Soaked cards can graded numerically but if there are traces of the soak they will be downgraded. That is my experience. Your mileage may vary...
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Hopefully, distilled water doesn't leave a trace. I wonder if it's better to show a trace of soaking or whether to keep the paper residue on the back.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

Hopefully, distilled water doesn't leave a trace. I wonder if it's better to show a trace of soaking or whether to keep the paper residue on the back.

There could be a trace left.
That's a personal choice but, for my experiences, trying to get the glue off was better than leaving it. And each card could be different with yours.

Here is one I did again. Close to half the back, which had writing, had glue and paper remnants on it. It got a numerical grade, obviously.


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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

If we decide to soak these cards in water to hopefully remove the backs, would it be considered altering the card? Would SGC grade a card that was soaked in water?

If you do a bad job they will be considered altered. It is one of those things that if they can tell you did it they will consider it altered. If done so they can't tell you done it you will get a number grade. With "proper" soaking they will also get a higher grade and be worth way more cash. Soaking can remove the staining and many of those creases and greatly reduce the others.

[Buythatcard]

Originally Posted by bnorth

If you do a bad job they will be considered altered. It is one of those things that if they can tell you did it they will consider it altered. If done so they can't tell you done it you will get a number grade. With "proper" soaking they will also get a higher grade and be worth way more cash. Soaking can remove the staining and many of those creases and greatly reduce the others.

Hopefully, we mess up the commons and not the big guns. I am hoping they get atleast an Authentic grade for most of those cards.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

Hopefully, we mess up the commons and not the big guns. I am hoping they get atleast an Authentic grade for most of those cards.

Anything will get an authentic grade if you have them slab all cards.

I would honestly suggest buying some complete beat to crap 60s or 70s cards and practice. After some practice soaking/cleaning cards you will then be ready to do a way better job on the tobacco cards. The most important part is the drying/pressing part so you can't tell the soaking pressing was done.