Kyrie to Dallas good or bad?

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Mavs are legit contenders now, which is more than you could say before the trade. If nothing else, the busy trade deadline has me curious to see some of the new-look teams at the top of the western conference. (I'm a big basketball fan in general but the NBA regular season has become a real snooze fest over the last decade or so.)

It will make the Dallas team interesting on and off the court.

I think it was a risky trade with high upside potential and for just the rest of this season they trade to much depth away.
If they sign him long term I think it is a bigger risk because once Kyrie gets his money he will be who he is.

This year I think Dallas picked up a lot of upside but gave up to much depth. You need depth in the playoffs

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

It will make the Dallas team interesting on and off the court.

I think it was a risky trade with high upside potential and for just the rest of this season they trade to much depth away.
If they sign him long term I think it is a bigger risk because once Kyrie gets his money he will be who he is.

This year I think Dallas picked up a lot of upside but gave up to much depth. You need depth in the playoffs

That's for sure! Perimeter defense is the thing they lost the most IMO - Luka and Kyrie are not great defenders. Also some speculation now that Irving and LeBron are already planning a reunion in LA next season.

[D. Bergin]

Funny, I just realized about the Nets situation. Has any other team in this strong of a playoff position, halfway through the season, had their top 2 stars basically quit on them and force a trade?

I can see if you're in the bottom half of the standings and you're looking for a way out...but the Nets were in a solid playoff position, playing nearly .600 ball at the time of the trades.

Is Ben Simmons THAT difficult to play with?

[D. Bergin]

Kyrie and Luka had a pretty good game together last night in an OT losing effort on the road, it looks like.

That's a really sparse looking lineup otherwise though.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Funny, I just realized about the Nets situation. Has any other team in this strong of a playoff position, halfway through the season, had their top 2 stars basically quit on them and force a trade?

I can see if you're in the bottom half of the standings and you're looking for a way out...but the Nets were in a solid playoff position, playing nearly .600 ball at the time of the trades.

Is Ben Simmons THAT difficult to play with?

I can't think of one. Another funny thing - the Nets still have a decent team and could make the playoffs....if they win one playoff series they will equal the achievements of the "superteam"!

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Funny, I just realized about the Nets situation. Has any other team in this strong of a playoff position, halfway through the season, had their top 2 stars basically quit on them and force a trade?

I can see if you're in the bottom half of the standings and you're looking for a way out...but the Nets were in a solid playoff position, playing nearly .600 ball at the time of the trades.

Is Ben Simmons THAT difficult to play with?

Good Point

Now watch them drop like a rock.

But hopefully the re-images Nets team does something and hopefully Durant and Kyrie struggle with their new teams

[BobbyStrawberry]

Dallas is now 1-4 with Irving. Theyve also fallen out of the top 6 and into the play-in bracket. Not working out great so far

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Dallas is now 1-4 with Irving. Theyve also fallen out of the top 6 and into the play-in bracket. Not working out great so far

They're 3-5 since Kyrie got there, and 3-4 in games Kyrie has played. I believe it's 1-4 when Kyrie and Luka play in the same game. Their one win together was against an absolutely terrible Spurs team.

You can read that a few different ways.

New team-mates, and just about every game is very close. Give them time and they might gel just enough to be successful eventually.

or, they're playing pretty good individually, but with their over-lapping skill sets, it leaves too many holes on the floor with the rest of the team, and they suffer on the defensive and rebounding end, even when they're both playing well offensively.

I think Kyrie is at a point he wants to impress and be a good team-mate...for now. What happens when he loses interest, catches too much criticism, or binge watches a hundred episodes of "The UFO/Bigfoot Files" in a row...is anybody's guess.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

They're 3-5 since Kyrie got there, and 3-4 in games Kyrie has played. I believe it's 1-4 when Kyrie and Luka play in the same game. Their one win together was against an absolutely terrible Spurs team.

You can read that a few different ways.

New team-mates, and just about every game is very close. Give them time and they might gel just enough to be successful eventually.

or, they're playing pretty good individually, but with their over-lapping skill sets, it leaves too many holes on the floor with the rest of the team, and they suffer on the defensive and rebounding end, even when they're both playing well offensively.

I think Kyrie is at a point he wants to impress and be a good team-mate...for now. What happens when he loses interest, catches too much criticism, or binge watches a hundred episodes of "The UFO/Bigfoot Files" in a row...is anybody's guess.

Yes, you're right - my mistake. I agree they have time to get things on track, especially with so many teams in the west packed together in the standings.

To me Kidd has never seemed like a great coach, and I'm sure he's doing his best, but man what a task to try and manage those two personalities! Both unquestionable talents, but Luka is still really lacking in maturity IMO and Kyrie is, well, Kyrie ...

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

They're 3-5 since Kyrie got there, and 3-4 in games Kyrie has played. I believe it's 1-4 when Kyrie and Luka play in the same game. Their one win together was against an absolutely terrible Spurs team.

You can read that a few different ways.

New team-mates, and just about every game is very close. Give them time and they might gel just enough to be successful eventually.

or, they're playing pretty good individually, but with their over-lapping skill sets, it leaves too many holes on the floor with the rest of the team, and they suffer on the defensive and rebounding end, even when they're both playing well offensively.

I think Kyrie is at a point he wants to impress and be a good team-mate...for now. What happens when he loses interest, catches too much criticism, or binge watches a hundred episodes of "The UFO/Bigfoot Files" in a row...is anybody's guess.

Good points but I am hoping he fails.