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Old 03-04-2008, 03:38 PM
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Posted By: Rhys Y.

The other thread about Rinky Dink Stamps made me remember this set of "Cards" that I have had for a little while now. They have the following attributes that would make it seem to be a card set

They were issued in a numbered set of 72 (of which I have between 50-60).

They each have a image of a named Baseball Player or action scene (some are similar to R337 in their "instruction images")

They were issued with the intention of being cut out and saved, it says so right at the top of each one.

They are dated 1922 on each one and the method of distribution was a one per day sort of "premium" in the newspaper.

In my opinion these fit the absolute definition of a baseball card. I am curious to know if anyone here has ever seen or heard of this issue or what other people think about whether or not these would constitute "cards" and should be cataloged or not.

The players pictured are (L to R) GC Alexander, Heinie Groh, and Babe Ruth

Thanks in advance for the input.

Rhys Yeakley


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Old 03-04-2008, 05:08 PM
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

Rhys, I think these are as much "cards" as the Detroit Times, Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph, and Boston American Stamps. And actually probably even more so as these are at least numberred. At it loosest definition of the word "card" I guess would qualify, and I can't say I have ever seen them before you told me about them on the phone.
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:23 PM
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Posted By: leon

I would not consider them cards. They look like part of the newspaper...if others do think they are it's ok by me ...take care

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Posted By: PC

Opinions differ, but IMO, not cards.

Numbered newspaper cutouts like this seem like pages in a book, one that the reader cuts out and puts together.

Still, very cool. And if they qualify as cards, even better.

When I saw these, for some reason I thought of the 1954 NY Journal American lottery tickets. Not because they are similar to the Sioux Falls, but because I'm not sure those are cards either. As newspaper inserts they look more like cards than the Sioux Falls, but they are tickets, and are tickets cards?

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Posted By: Glen V

Pins, silks, albums/album pages, and newspaper inserts are not cards. Some may even have ACC #s, and are highly collectible, but that doesn't make them cards...

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Posted By: Ken W.

I LIKE THEM... so they're cards!

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Posted By: Rich Klein

But if I were still editing the Beckett Almanac I'd definately catalog them as they are "collectibles" and would make sure they had a place in the data base

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Posted By: Rhys

I guess I should have worded it differently because that was actually the answer I was looking for. While I totally understand why these would not be considered "cards" since I probably wouldn't call them that either, I absolutely think they belong in the baseball card price guides as much or more than many of the sets which are in there. So describing them as "Collectibles" as placing them in the price guide is what I would think was appropriate too.

I will try and get the checklist of all the known cards up sometime.

Rhys

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Old 03-06-2008, 02:15 PM
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Posted By: Bob Lemke

If I was still making decisions about what was added to the Standard Catalog, I'd add these because they were evidently intended to be cut out and saved, similar to a lot of other roughly contemporary issues. You should contact Don Fluckinger at don@prospecthillpub.com with a checklist and scan.

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