old timers reunion photo circa 1910-19

[milkit1]

I remember seeing a photo of an old timers reunion photo from the late teens that had all nineteenth century players on it. It is not the one from Cleveland in 1921 or the famous one from 1930. This was from the teens and the copy i use to have might have came out of a reach guide. Was wondering if anyone recollects this?

Thanks

[bgar3]

I am away from my books right now but I am pretty sure there is a foldout photo in the Spalding book, America’s National Game that even has the players identified. Book was published 1911. The photo I remember included professional as well as amateur old timers.

[milkit1]

Yes! The photo I had was a foldout as well. Would love to see it if you get a chance. Thanks!

[bgar3]

Ok, but won’t be able until Monday night or Tuesday.

[GaryPassamonte]

Originally Posted by bgar3

I am away from my books right now but I am pretty sure there is a foldout photo in the Spalding book, America’s National Game that even has the players identified. Book was published 1911. The photo I remember included professional as well as amateur old timers.

I believe the photo is from 1908.

[scooter729]

I also have a panoramic from an old-timers game played at Braves Field in Boston in 1922, which features many 19th century players (along with others from early 20th century).

Might not be exactly what you're looking for, but thought it might be nice to just share a quick photo....

[milkit1]

Thanks for sharing Scott! That's killer!
In trying to figure out who the player is in this pic with George Moriarty. My pic is older than yours but can you look to see if any of the players are wearing a uniform with a C on the sleeve?

Thanks

[HexsHeroes]

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I suspect it is former major leaguer Jesse Burkett.

I recently saw this same image, with penciil notation on back of photo stating "Dad and Jesse Burket" or something along those lines (with "Dad" being George Moriarity). Possibly in Rhys Yeakley recently ended RMY Auction.

[bgar3]

Here is the foldout from Spalding. Gary is correct, it is from 1908, but it is in Spalding’s book published in 1911.

[bgar3]

Sorry.
May not be what you were thinking of.

[RUKen]

I have copied below a different image of an Old Timers' game held at Peddock's Island, Massachusetts, on August 12th, 1908. This game included James O'Rourke, Tommy McCarthy, George Wright, Jesse Burkett, Tim Keefe, Billy Hamilton, Candy Cummings, Timothy Murnane, John Morrill, Tommy Bond, Dickey Pearce, Billy Nash, and Charley Ganzel. (The poor quality of the image makes it impossible to ID the players.)

[milkit1]

Wow this is great stuff guys! Yeah that foldout from 1908 is exactly what I was thinking of.
Yeah the back of my photo is written by Georges son stating its Burkett but his height and weight just doesnt seem to match up. I wondered if the strange uniform is actually his old uniform. It was a stab in the dark that maybe that uniform could be seen in one of these pre 1920 reunion photos. Can you guys tell in your copy of your photos if anyone is wearing a blank fronted uniform with what looks like a C on both sleeves?

[scooter729]

Jesse Burkett is in my 1922 panoramic as well, though I'm not 100% sure which one he is. I'll see if I can ID him and post a better picture.

Edit: This Christies auction link will show a good zoom on my pic. Mine actually is trimmed a bit on both ends as well, so this will be a better reference than mine to see all of the players.

This is a Boston Post newspaper article from the day, detailing the Old Timers game and listing all of the players who appeared:
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Baseball stars of the past, coming from all parts of the country, have begun to drift in tor the Boston Post's Old Timers' game, which is to be played at Braves Field tomorrow afternoon starting at 3 o'clock.

Among the early arrivals were Cy Young, "Kid" Nichols, Jimmy Archer, Bobby Lowe, Al Selbach, Bill Bradley, Tom Tucker, "Nap" Lajoie. Others came in during the night and the whole bunch, numbering more than 50, will be on hand before tomorrow noon.

The fun at Braves Field will begin about 1:00 with the band concert. There will be a march to the flagpole by the "Old Timers," "each of whom will be numbered tor Identification.

Upon their return each will be presented a souvenir medal. Gov. Cox making the presentation to the old National League players and Mayor Curley to the American Leaguers.

Fred Tenney will manage the Natlonal League team,which will include: Kid Nichols, Jack Chesbro, Ted Lewis and Klobedanz, pitchers; Billy Merritt, Jimmie Archer and Bill Bergin, catchers; Fred Tenney and Tom Tucker, first base; Larry Lajoie and Johnnie Evers and Bill Sweeney , second base; Bobbie Lowe and Bill Bradley, third base; Paul Radford and Connaughton, shortstop; Patsy Donovan, Jimmie Bannon, Jesse Burkett, Billy Hamilton, John Anderson. outfielders.

Jimmy Collins' roster wilt be made up as follows: Cy Young, Jesse Tannehill, Bill Dineen, Ray Collins and Buck O'Brien. pitchers: Blll Carrigan. Charlie Farrell, Tommy Madden and Fred Lake, catchers: Candy LaChance and Harry Davis. first base; Jack Barry and Dave Shean, second base; Jimmy Collins and Harry Lord, third base: Fred Parent and Heinie Wagner, shortstop; Pat Doherty, Dannie Murphy. Olaf Henriksen, Clyde Engle and Jack Hoey, outfielders.

[RUKen]

Originally Posted by milkit1

Yeah the back of my photo is written by Georges son stating its Burkett but his height and weight just doesnt seem to match up. I wondered if the strange uniform is actually his old uniform. It was a stab in the dark that maybe that uniform could be seen in one of these pre 1920 reunion photos. Can you guys tell in your copy of your photos if anyone is wearing a blank fronted uniform with what looks like a C on both sleeves?

The Cleveland teams that Burkett played on did not wear a uniform with a blank front and a C on both sleeves. You can look at illustrations here: https://www.threadsofourgame.com/category/region/oh/

[milkit1]

Originally Posted by RUKen

The Cleveland teams that Burkett played on did not wear a uniform with a blank front and a C on both sleeves. You can look at illustrations here: https://www.threadsofourgame.com/category/region/oh/

Yeah I dont think it is Burkett but whomever it might be wearing their old uniform. I just cant tell what it is

[milkit1]

This is super cool thanks for sharing!


QUOTE=scooter729;2096896]Jesse Burkett is in my 1922 panoramic as well, though I'm not 100% sure which one he is. I'll see if I can ID him and post a better picture.

Edit: This Christies auction link will show a good zoom on my pic. Mine actually is trimmed a bit on both ends as well, so this will be a better reference than mine to see all of the players.

This is a Boston Post newspaper article from the day, detailing the Old Timers game and listing all of the players who appeared:
================================

Baseball stars of the past, coming from all parts of the country, have begun to drift in tor the Boston Post's Old Timers' game, which is to be played at Braves Field tomorrow afternoon starting at 3 o'clock.

Among the early arrivals were Cy Young, "Kid" Nichols, Jimmy Archer, Bobby Lowe, Al Selbach, Bill Bradley, Tom Tucker, "Nap" Lajoie. Others came in during the night and the whole bunch, numbering more than 50, will be on hand before tomorrow noon.

The fun at Braves Field will begin about 1:00 with the band concert. There will be a march to the flagpole by the "Old Timers," "each of whom will be numbered tor Identification.

Upon their return each will be presented a souvenir medal. Gov. Cox making the presentation to the old National League players and Mayor Curley to the American Leaguers.

Fred Tenney will manage the Natlonal League team,which will include: Kid Nichols, Jack Chesbro, Ted Lewis and Klobedanz, pitchers; Billy Merritt, Jimmie Archer and Bill Bergin, catchers; Fred Tenney and Tom Tucker, first base; Larry Lajoie and Johnnie Evers and Bill Sweeney , second base; Bobbie Lowe and Bill Bradley, third base; Paul Radford and Connaughton, shortstop; Patsy Donovan, Jimmie Bannon, Jesse Burkett, Billy Hamilton, John Anderson. outfielders.

Jimmy Collins' roster wilt be made up as follows: Cy Young, Jesse Tannehill, Bill Dineen, Ray Collins and Buck O'Brien. pitchers: Blll Carrigan. Charlie Farrell, Tommy Madden and Fred Lake, catchers: Candy LaChance and Harry Davis. first base; Jack Barry and Dave Shean, second base; Jimmy Collins and Harry Lord, third base: Fred Parent and Heinie Wagner, shortstop; Pat Doherty, Dannie Murphy. Olaf Henriksen, Clyde Engle and Jack Hoey, outfielders.[/QUOTE]

[coco]

There are at least 3 known original surviving photographs of the 1908 Old Timers Game which were taken by Carl J. Horner. Albert Spalding traveled 3000 miles by train from Ca in order to attend the game and had John Morrill of the the New York A. G. Spalding & Bros. store to have a brand new white uniform made up for him to wear in the game. There are also a few surviving score card / programs from the game.

[HexsHeroes]

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To be honest, before recognizing that this photo was in a recent auction and had notation regarding "Jesse Burket" on back, my first guess was that the mystery ballplayer was Detroit coach Jimmy Burke. But quickly ruled that out since the mystery ballplayer appears to be nearly as tall as the 6-foot Moriarity, yet Jimmy Burke is only 5'-6".

As for the uniform, could be possible that it is from either a minor league or college team. Jesse Burkett was affiliated at one time with Louisville Colonels. But Louisville team photo from 1916 does not resemble the one worn by the mystery player.

[orator1]

Originally Posted by coco

There are at least 3 known original surviving photographs of the 1908 Old Timers Game which were taken by Carl J. Horner. Albert Spalding traveled 3000 miles by train from Ca in order to attend the game and had John Morrill of the the New York A. G. Spalding & Bros. store to have a brand new white uniform made up for him to wear in the game. There are also a few surviving score card / programs from the game.

Could someone post the 3 known photos or links to them?

[JollyElm]

Do you realize that the panoramic pic from 1922 showing players from the previous century is tantamount to having an Old Timers Day today in 2021 showing the guys who played in the 1990's?? That just strikes me as entirely weird for unknown reasons.

[milkit1]

That is pretty funny. Also the 1908 reunion photo, the oldest player in that might be in their early 60s simply because some were actually around from the beginning

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Do you realize that the panoramic pic from 1922 showing players from the previous century is tantamount to having an Old Timers Day today in 2021 showing the guys who played in the 1990's?? That just strikes me as entirely weird for unknown reasons.

Makes us all feel really old, but a player from 1990 is likely at least in his mid-late 50s now. Even though old timers in my 47 year old mind should mean guys from the 1960s or 1970s, those guys are likely 70-80 years old now and not looking to play too much ball. So, that old timers game with guys from the 1990s probably is what would end up happening now!

[J-Yo]

The Addie Joss benefit game in 1911 is probably my favorite panoramic, has almost all the deadball greats in it. Someone had a thread going with the image and I was able to print it on the Target app for like $16 and frame it. Not sure if you’ve seen that photo but it’s fantastic, they had the original at the HOF when I was there in the Fall.


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