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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: davidcycleback
I've not been overly interested in the recent posts about about forming a ethics group/membership/rules, but think it is a good idea if it concerns people. I don't if any headway has been made, but think it's mostly a matter of getting things done. |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: JimCrandell
David, |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: Todd Schultz
Nice of you to take the intitiative. I saw where Dave Hornisch suggested that an association or whatever you would denominate the group include legal counsel. For what it's worth, I'd be willing to devote some of my time to research or review any legal issues that might arise, either in formation or administration of the group, provided I'm not flying solo. Seems to me there are several lawyers on the board, some (many?all?) of whom have time on their hands to put toward the cause, dare I say, pro bono. |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: barrysloate
You know, I have a sneaking suspicion that everybody pretty much knows what is ethical and what isn't. Even the guy who sits in his basement late at night trimming cards knows what he is doing is not ethical. The real issue is how do we get him to stop? |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: davidcycleback
Buy from members who are in good standing. One reason people buy from dealers who belong to other associations, is because the dealers have been accepted and agreed to the rules. As someone interested in fine art prints, I recommend beginning collectors to buy from dealers who belong to well known dealer associations, as there are ethics and other rules these dealers have agreed to follow and the dealers have been approved as reputable and knowledgeable by the association. The membership lists often serve as a directory of who to buy from. To reputable dealers, being a member is a badge of honor that only helps sales. |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: Dave Hornish
There is sub-thread at the bottom of the "Report of the January 25 NYC Hobby Forum" postings (the last 5 or 6 messages or so) that covers some of this. I wonder if Leon can excise or copy those and move them to this thread? |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: MVSNYC
we forgot to mention (barry- correct me if i am wrong), that at our NYC meeting, we had an interesting dialogue about having some shows, where ALL of the dealers had to have ALL graded cards...it might have been doug allen's idea, i forget, but it sounded like a good one, and it could happen at a premiere venue, like the Park Avenue Armory in NYC (i think we had a similar discussion a few months ago, but it does not have to be super expensive material, just ALL graded)...could be a great event. |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: barrysloate
Michael- I think Doug's idea was along the lines of having a show where only cards graded by the respected grading services would be allowed. I think the logistics would be pretty difficult, but it was an interesting point. |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: JimCrandell
Barry and Mike, |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: Trae R.
D'oh, per GoDaddy: BCEA.ORG is already taken. |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: barrysloate
Jim- correct, but only high end graded by one of the top three or four companies. He would not allow high end cards graded by those that encapsulate trimmed cards. |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: MVSNYC
jim, if you remember, it was i who first said "high-end", and doug and the rest were quick to say that it DOES NOT have to be high end (Doug- correct me if i am wrong)... |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: Dave G
"Jim- correct, but only high end graded by one of the top three or four companies. He would not allow high end cards graded by those that encapsulate trimmed cards." |
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Baseball Card Ethics Association/ Rules
Posted By: barrysloate
Dave- well that's where it gets tricky. I think PSA would be part of the suggested show, since they are the largest grading service. I understand the controversy but I believe their cards would be allowed through the front door. |
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