Mind. Blown.

[rsdill2]

Just got this back from PSA today.

[111gecko]

WOW. Looks like there is a long crease on the back below the 177 that runs through ROOK then below STARS to the side..
A 1.5 though?...I'm in trouble with my cards then..
Rough grade, and the worst part is you probably had to wait 3 months.

[jchcollins]

Ouch. My condolences.

"Please Submit Again."

[quitcrab]

You want to sell it LMK. Thanks Scott

[rsdill2]

Originally Posted by 111gecko

WOW. Looks like there is a long crease on the back below the 177 that runs through ROOK then below STARS to the side..
A 1.5 though?...I'm in trouble with my cards then..
Rough grade, and the worst part is you probably had to wait 3 months.

I see what you're seeing in the scan. On close inspection in person, I don't see a crease. Don't see a crease anywhere. Only thing I see is the little spot on the 'A' on the front in ROOKIE STARS (it's not paper loss), the little mark on the back in the middle above 'w' in southpaw, and the weak lower left corner. I bought it raw thinking it was midgrade and I still think its midgrade. Real head scratcher here.

Originally Posted by quitcrab

You want to sell it LMK. Thanks Scott

Not actively trying to sell, but for the right price I would. Feel free to make an offer via PM

[JollyElm]

If it is not a blatant, egregious error/mislabeling on PSA's part, then there must be some creases or such present somewhere (at a minimum). Can you tilt it in the light from every angle and take pics to see if anything becomes apparent?? If there's nothing there, then YOWZA!!!

[jchcollins]

Mine. Bought raw and sent in right about a year ago. Creases / wrinkles would change the equation, but I dare say yours has better corners.





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[JollyElm]

Your back picture does show a wavy black line instead of a straight one. That very well could be the essence of the grade being lowered, but down to a 1.5?? Mystifying. And the card wasn't rippled when you submitted it? Damn.

[STM56]

That’s concerning to me because I have the same card out to PSA for grading right now. I’m an amateur but the only thing I see is the white line down the left edge. I wouldn’t think that would count off that much though. Examples of 1.5’s on Vintage Card Prices are much worse looking cards.

[rsdill2]

Originally Posted by STM56

That’s concerning to me because I have the same card out to PSA for grading right now. I’m an amateur but the only thing I see is the white line down the left edge. I wouldn’t think that would count off that much though. Examples of 1.5’s on Vintage Card Prices are much worse looking cards.

95% of all MB #177's have the white line. And truthfully, the white line in my card is much thinner and less obtrusive than most. It should have zero impact on the grade.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by rsdill2

Just got this back from PSA today.

Gorgeous Ryan rookie! You should be very happy to own this one. This is just another example of why I am increasingly indifferent at best in allowing any TPGer to define my collection with their opinions.