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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: Jeff Prillaman
Any thoughts or comments as to the authenticity on this item. The gentleman who brought it to us yesterday has had it since 1989. Included is the letter seen and several pictures of the bat. Sorry for the size of the letter, but whenever I shrunk the file size you couldn't read it. |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: leon
Jeff asked if he could post this for some help....so of course, 99% of the time when someone asks, I don't have a problem ...with O/T.....I know many folks on the board collect bats.....regards |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: Rhys
Does not look like a gamer from the markings. However, if there are any vault marks on the opposite side of the barrell than it could be. Player models were usually 125 or even 250, but there have been exceptions with vault marks. If it came from the H&B vault I would assume some marks would be somewhere on the bat. I do not really collect bats, but I have a very rare circa 1918 Negro League star game used bat with vault marks, and I have owned probably 20 pre-war game bats in the past. |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: Mark
Usually, 40 model bats were store models - most times the |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: davidcycleback
Jeff, www.gameuseduniverse.com has a board/forum like ours used by knowledgeable game used collectors and dealers. You can post your bat there. |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: joe
I agree with Mark, the 40 is usually a store bat. I have a Ty Cobb bat with 40TC, Louisville Slugger and have been told it is a store bat. I think there might be instances where other than 125 bats could have been game used by player. |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Hey Jeff, |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: David Smith
To the right of the label looks to read "Bone Rubbed". |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I never know how much knowledge is out there... sometimes lots, sometimes not so much... |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: jackgoodman
Just a question for my own edification: Shouldn't a letter of authenticity cite the name of the "major west coast dealer" it was obtained from for added provenance? Seems kind of loosey-goosey (a technical term) and akin to saying it came from the "Mr. X" collection. |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
bat? I have a game-used bat H&B book at home that generally has the lengths of the HOFer's and better players in it. I would seriously doubt that the '40' bat is a gamer though. Of course, Dave Bushing would be your best source as he has the actual vault records (or copies thereof) from H&B. He's been at both of the H&B auctions and is in routine contact with them. |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: Daniel Bretta
I think that maybe not a lot is known about Hack Wilson gamers because the Mastronet reference guide to game used bats doesn't have any model numbers listed for Wilson's bats. Unless this bat has vault marks on it having the "40" designation is not a good sign. I would say not a gamer on this one. |
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Hack Wilson - Gamer or not?
Posted By: ralph
Its clearly not a game used bat, the 40 desgn.is glaring proof,also the letter states.." Louisville accumulated bats over the years"..these are bats that didnt sell,they are not game used.Ive had many 1930ish bats over the years and can plainly see its not a gamer. |
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