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Old 03-18-2014, 11:19 AM
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Default Interesting "coincidence" in autographed photos bought through Proxibid

I've recently bought a few autographed photos from three different auction houses on Proxibid (and this is not a Proxibid bash - I've had good luck and bad luck with items bought there, and realize it's a function of the auction house, not the portal). These are all unauthenticated photos of current players and I don't think I spent more than $10 on any figuring I'm not out that much if they prove to be bogus. So, when I got them, I noticed on the back of each there was lettering and numbering that you often see when you print photos online or at a store - I am attaching an example. Although the numbers and names of the player are different in each photo, the name Toni Maynard is on the first line of print on each of the photos (again - these are from three different auction houses). I assume she is the person who printed out all of the photos. Has anyone ever come across this before? Unless Ms. Maynard has a whole lot of athlete contacts in different sports, different leagues, and different colleges, I guess I have to assume that the autographs are all fake. Any thoughts? Thanks!
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:15 PM
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Let's see one of the photos. My guess is that you will find that they are copies of autographed photos.
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:38 PM
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Let's see one of the photos. My guess is that you will find that they are copies of autographed photos.
Wow - that could be. I'll post one tomorrow.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:04 PM
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Even if these photos are copies, there is no way to tell if the autograph is a copy or real via a computer screen.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:43 PM
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Even if these photos are copies, there is no way to tell if the autograph is a copy or real via a computer screen.
This.

Unless of course we're lucky or very familiar with the photos and know what original they match to or that they're popular reprints.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:07 PM
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A plausible explanation is a forgery ring distributes their product through a number of local auction houses like the ones on proxybid.

The proof of the pudding will be seeing the signatures. If they appear to be the product of a forgery ring, the name on the back of the prints could actually be a valuable piece of information.
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:10 AM
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Here are scans - Ray Lewis and Marqise Lee. If you guys have tips as to determining if these are copies of signatures or actual signatures (real or forged), please let me know - I tried to tell and have no clue. They look to me like ink on a photo, and I compared it to photos I've had signed in person and couldn't tell. From looking at other sigs on line, the Lee one looks pretty different. Lewis looks good to me, though. Anyway, if anyone has any thoughts about this, please let me know.

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Old 03-19-2014, 09:30 AM
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Get a Click Eraser.
I bought two autographed photos of Ted Williams from Always At Auction.
This was an experiment because I had doubts about the way these "autographs" were "placed" on the photo.
Click Eraser will erase sharpie ink on glossy photo paper.
It did not erase the ink on the two photos I bought.
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Get a Click Eraser.
I bought two autographed photos of Ted Williams from Always At Auction.
This was an experiment because I had doubts about the way these "autographs" were "placed" on the photo.
Click Eraser will erase sharpie ink on glossy photo paper.
It did not erase the ink on the two photos I bought.
Thanks - I'll give it a try.
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Old 03-19-2014, 03:51 PM
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Get a Click Eraser.
I bought two autographed photos of Ted Williams from Always At Auction.
This was an experiment because I had doubts about the way these "autographs" were "placed" on the photo.
Click Eraser will erase sharpie ink on glossy photo paper.
It did not erase the ink on the two photos I bought.
So in other words, if you can erase them they are real?
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So in other words, if you can erase them they are real?
Really on the picture at least
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So in other words, if you can erase them they are real?
There's one that I don't care too much about, so it will be a good test subject.
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So in other words, if you can erase them they are real?
Yes that is correct
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