New Forensic Autograph Authentication Company

[barrysloate]

When the memorabilia side was first created there was never any fighting, and we always had interesting discussions about photos, books, 19th century pieces, and the like. Now a bunch of autograph guys have hijacked this whole side of the board. All we have is our daily thread about fradulent autographs, then the same people get into their daily pissing match. I really hate what you guys are doing to the memorabilia side. It's no longer fun to hang out here unless you are in the mood to watch a trainwreck. I hate autographs and think you all have become a pain in the ass.

[thekingofclout]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

When the memorabilia side was first created there was never any fighting, and we always had interesting discussions about photos, books, 19th century pieces, and the like. Now a bunch of autograph guys have hijacked this whole side of the board. All we have is our daily thread about fradulent autographs, then the same people get into their daily pissing match. I really hate what you guys are doing to the memorabilia side. It's no longer fun to hang out here unless you are in the mood to watch a trainwreck. I hate autographs and think you all have become a pain in the ass.

I couldn't agree more Barry. Well, I guess that just makes us a couple of sentimental old farts...

[drc]

I find the drama, personal fights and evil people writing anonymous blogs too much, but the subject of autographs on this board I find interesting. So I have nothing against autographs being a topic here.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by thekingofclout

I couldn't agree more Barry. Well, I guess that just makes us a couple of sentimental old farts...

Make it three...

I remember (seems like yesterday) that we on the Memorabilia side took pride in not quibbling and fighting like the "Card Guys". This was known as the civil side of the board. It was basically a place that collectors could come to share information and help others with questions. Too bad it had to change gears so quickly.

I like vintage autographs too, but it does seem that 90% of the fighting, accusations, name calling and drama come from the autograph threads. Many of the frequent autograph posters seem to have an "agenda" that over-rides any potential enjoyment they are deriving from the hobby.

Last I checked, hobbies were for relaxation, recreation and enjoyment. What's happening here is more like a war

[barrysloate]

I wasn't suggesting that autographs aren't a fair topic of discussion, as they are an important area of the hobby. And since the level of fraud is epidemic, it's fair game to point out some of the bad ones. But it's the tenor of these threads I don't like. The same guys every day are ragging on each other, and frankly the only thing I can think of to say is that you guys are becoming really boring.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I wasn't suggesting that autographs aren't a fair topic of discussion, as they are an important area of the hobby. And since the level of fraud is epidemic, it's fair game to point out some of the bad ones. But it's the tenor of these threads I don't like. The same guys every day are ragging on each other, and frankly the only thing I can think of to say is that you guys are becoming really boring.

I for one have probably been one of the most out spoken and seemingly against Travis & David. I AM NOT. I am going tone down the rhetoric.

After further review and not letting my emotions get in the way, I can see where David has a bone to pick with PSA & JSA. If they cost me the kind of money, they cost him on the 27 Yankee ball fiasco, I'd be pretty pissed about it too and I'd regularly speak out about their sloppiness and lackadaisical mistakes. I just wish he wouldn't rail against Richard & Chris, because they are great assets to the hobby and have so much to offer as well.

I also have great respect for Travis & his knowledge on Boxing even though he regularly bashes me and I bash him. Boxing is his passion and PSA & JSA apparently suck at Boxing, so I do get his focus. I just wish he would speak out about ALL forgeries a little more, which are always rampant.

The FDE forgeries are just as important to focus on. Once they are outed, guys like MORALESS, AAU, STAT (they turn to TTA), Birdsick they seemingly go away for a bit and then BANG Tbhey are back on another website or you have new fraudulent FDE's coming out of the woodwork like CSC & ACE pops up and rear their ugly heads. IT IS A BIG Never ending problem & we can thank Chris for helping to spearhead this effort.

Richard is against 3rd party to some degree, but does understand they are the lesser of two evils and regularly "tells it like it really is". He is respected by almost everyone in the hobby and rightfully so.

All in all we are really lucky that these guys put themselves out there and contribute on this board, which is really the standard, by which all blogging is measured. Thanks to all four of you guys, for your passion. FUDD. Happy Super Bowl.

[RichardSimon]

Thank you Chuck, I do appreciate your kind words and the sense of humor you have shown in many of your earlier posts.
Chuck you referred to ACE as an FDE, they are not an FDE.

[RichardSimon]

I wrote to this new company, GFA, 5 days ago from the contact page on their website, asking how to submit autographs for authentication.
I am still waiting for a reply.
It appears to me that they are not looking for retail collector business.