PWCC's 1936 Goudey World Wide Gum DiMaggio PSA 7

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

You know what dude. You had me until this post.

Your comment shows what a dipsh*t douche you must be. Playing the "I spend more money than you so my credibility is higher, and my opinion is right." card. What a loser... comments like this by losers like you make my stomach turn.

My Canadian friend I thought I'd share this:

"You can't be great if you're not rich, I'm sorry, but it's true"

-an unnamed American President

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

My Canadian friend I thought I'd share this:

"You can't be great if you're not rich, I'm sorry, but it's true"

-an unnamed American President

Sounds like something Obama would say ...

[Whodunit]

Can somebody get Brent or Betsy to try and refute the 2 images I posted refuting her remarks about their shill bid policy and my "very large unpaid debt". Or is he trying to figure out a response for why he wouldnt/wont send a 60k invoice when i clearly asked for one quite a while ago.......weeks. Or, would yall like the rest of those messages?

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Whodunit

Can somebody get Brent or Betsy to try and refute the 2 images I posted refuting her remarks about their shill bid policy and my "very large unpaid debt". Or is he trying to figure out a response for why he wouldnt/wont send a 60k invoice when i clearly asked for one quite a while ago.......weeks. Or, would yall like the rest of those messages?

Do not stop now. Open up the flood gates my man. This is a serious story with serious facts about something that has been brewing for a LONG time.

Show us the light.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Whodunit

Fyi

Wow!

That's an eye opener!

I knew this stuff went on in the hobby, but I never expected PWCC to be participating.

Naive, I guess?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Why he not sell the 75k card on pwcc and shill it to more than the 50k (what he got at the other auction house) since he has so much control.....

[irv]

Originally Posted by botn

Post #412's screen capture pretty much demonstrates there is no truth to this policy of PWCC's:
Auction Integrity
No Shill

The integrity of bidding on our auctions is our highest priority. The sportscard hobby hinges on the honesty and integrity of the seller, and collectors deserve a bidding environment that is 100% legitimate and uninfluenced by manipulation such as fraudulent bidding by the auction house, consignors, friends of consignors, friends of the auction house, or anyone else who participates insincerely with the sole intention of manipulating the sale price.

I know this thread is about the WWG Joe D but that text Cortney posted is incredibly damaging to Brent...think someone posted the other day in support of Brent, stating to keep doing what he is doing. Post may have been a bit premature.

No kidding!

I never had an issue dealing with PWCC, and like I mentioned above, I thought they were above board, but it's clear to see now, I drank way too much of the Kool-Aid.

[Brent Huigens]

Cortney placed a series of sequential bids, and because they weren't placed at the minimum bid increment, they didn't fall outside our policy. Regardless, this bidding behavior didn't bode well for the auction. We didn't want to cancel his bids because he hadn't technically behaved in a way that would warrant cancellation. We do feel that as long as a series of bids results in a bidder becoming the high bidder, the intention of the bidding is to win the card. This is why we asked him to become the high bidder. Cortney was a bidder who required constant monitoring and management; this level of communication doesn't exist for other buyers. We are relieved to not have to engage with him moving forward.

Betsy Huigens

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Brent Huigens

Cortney placed a series of sequential bids, and because they weren't placed at the minimum bid increment, they didn't fall outside our policy. Regardless, this bidding behavior didn't bode well for the auction. We didn't want to cancel his bids because he hadn't technically behaved in a way that would warrant cancellation. We do feel that as long as a series of bids results in a bidder becoming the high bidder, the intention of the bidding is to win the card. This is why we asked him to become the high bidder. Cortney was a bidder who required constant monitoring and management; this level of communication doesn't exist for other buyers. We are relieved to not have to engage with him moving forward.

Betsy Huigens

No offense, but if I am not mistaken, Ebay allows you to bid in any increment you wish, obviously limited by how their system is designed. You specifically asked him to inflate his bid amount and subsequently the price because he will be outbid. I am not sure how you "spin" this in any way to make it ok. You told him to bid so he won't win because he will be outbid. What sort of moronic response is the quoted one?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

No offense, but if I am not mistaken, Ebay allows you to bid in any increment you wish, obviously limited by how their system is designed. You specifically asked him to inflate his bid amount and subsequently the price because he will be outbid. I am not sure how you "spin" this in any way to make it ok. You told him to bid so he won't win because he will be outbid. What sort of moronic response is the quoted one?

Thats a good point there

"But, back to the shill bidding texts, here are more between Brent and me. "

They were not attached whodunit

[Whodunit]

Here ya go. This is me finding out about the dr'd card.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Brent Huigens

Cortney placed a series of sequential bids, and because they weren't placed at the minimum bid increment, they didn't fall outside our policy. Regardless, this bidding behavior didn't bode well for the auction. We didn't want to cancel his bids because he hadn't technically behaved in a way that would warrant cancellation. We do feel that as long as a series of bids results in a bidder becoming the high bidder, the intention of the bidding is to win the card. This is why we asked him to become the high bidder. Cortney was a bidder who required constant monitoring and management; this level of communication doesn't exist for other buyers. We are relieved to not have to engage with him moving forward.

Betsy Huigens

That sounds reasonable. Cortney's story has changed. He first said that he bid to buy it back for his collection, now he's saying he was asked to shill. Can't trust someone whose story changes like that.

[Scocs]

Is this a genuine Net54 thread....or a fever dream?!

[Whodunit]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

That sounds reasonable. Cortney's story has changed. He first said that he bid to buy it back for his collection, now he's saying he was asked to shill. Can't trust someone whose story changes like that.

Story has not changed. Are you brain dead. I stated that i was bidding to win it back until i found out about the thread and the altered card. At that point i quit bidding and brent asked me to keep it going. So, how is bidding to buy it back changing when i stated i quit bidding when i found out about the fraud. Id suggest you go back and read the thread David bc youre obviously either drunk, dead brain cells or dont have the capacity for cognitive thinking and reasoning. Look at time stamps if youre confused.

[botn]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

That sounds reasonable. Cortney's story has changed. He first said that he bid to buy it back for his collection, now he's saying he was asked to shill. Can't trust someone whose story changes like that.

I think Cortney also said he stopped bidding as soon as someone made him aware of this thread. Not saying Cortney is completely an innocent participant in regards to his dealings with Brent over the last 5 years but Cortney has not posted here and on other boards repeatedly assuring auction integrity, which seems is now being called into question from someone on the inside.

[Whodunit]

You really just went there knowing I have the texts and you have nothong but your thoughts? I have proof and you have.....? Youre stating "words", Im showing the community the types of conversations I had with Brent. Are you really prepared for what Im about to show them? Defend the starement about my "very large unpaid debt" with a screenshot that followed your post asking for an invoice long before today. ;-) Come on now Brent, dont pick and choose what to defend....and quit hiding behind Betsy's name. You know me well enough to know that every time you lie about me, im gonna refute it and show them more.

Sequential bids? Ebay states I dont have to bid more than min 100 bid increments......look at that auction.....there's no min bid even in there. Auction houses have the same policy. So, are you saying min bid behavior, even if its 1k bid increments, isnt sufficient for you?. Sounds like you need to take that up with ebay.

But, back to the shill bidding texts, here are more between Brent and me.

[Whodunit]

She (betsy/brent) started another thread. There's several in that one too. I can barely figure out how to do a screenshot attachment; work with me as i learn to blow this stuff up and show more than a few lines at a time. Betsy/Brent obviously didnt think I kept these things for times like this. Ill take a few insults, but lie to me or about me (large unpaid debt....that he refuses to accept or bill) and im gonna unleash the beast. Little thing called integrity and pride.

As for whoever asked for the whole conversation, please teach me how to upload the entire file, and ill oblige.......but, im not sure this web page has the capabilities of uploading a file that large......which is why i chose 3 arguments....1) refuting the anti shill bid policy with direct text from brent, 2) refuting the debt with a shot of my actively asking for invoices, and 3).......whatever that one was. Lol.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Whodunit

She (betsy/brent) started another thread. There's several in that one too. I can barely figure out how to do a screenshot attachment; work with me as i learn to blow this stuff up and show more than a few lines at a time. Betsy/Brent obviously didnt think I kept these things for times like this. Ill take a few insults, but lie to me or about me (large unpaid debt....that he refuses to accept or bill) and im gonna unleash the beast. Little thing called integrity and pride.

As for whoever asked for the whole conversation, please teach me how to upload the entire file, and ill oblige.......but, im not sure this web page has the capabilities of uploading a file that large......which is why i chose 3 arguments....1) refuting the anti shill bid policy with direct text from brent, 2) refuting the debt with a shot of my actively asking for invoices, and 3).......whatever that one was. Lol.

There is a way to export an entire conversation. Try this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by Whodunit

She (betsy/brent) started another thread. There's several in that one too. I can barely figure out how to do a screenshot attachment; work with me as i learn to blow this stuff up and show more than a few lines at a time. Betsy/Brent obviously didnt think I kept these things for times like this. Ill take a few insults, but lie to me or about me (large unpaid debt....that he refuses to accept or bill) and im gonna unleash the beast. Little thing called integrity and pride.

As for whoever asked for the whole conversation, please teach me how to upload the entire file, and ill oblige.......but, im not sure this web page has the capabilities of uploading a file that large......which is why i chose 3 arguments....1) refuting the anti shill bid policy with direct text from brent, 2) refuting the debt with a shot of my actively asking for invoices, and 3).......whatever that one was. Lol.

Not really sure how to myself but if you take a screen shot then zoom in you can do it piece by piece.