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Old 02-23-2005, 07:37 AM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

Because of Bill's obvious ego-trip - deleting collector links of board members participating on the other board - I now exit this board permanently.

This is a hobby that is supposed to be fun - not a power-trip for one person who thinks he can control how we interact with each other.

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Old 02-23-2005, 07:54 AM
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Jay

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Old 02-23-2005, 07:59 AM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

Yes, Bill deleted my link. And, yes, he's added it back in.

Jay - yes, once again you've dealt out another insult without having a clue what you were talking about.

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Old 02-23-2005, 08:00 AM
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Posted By: Jay Miller

What is Leon's site address?

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Old 02-23-2005, 08:09 AM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

Jay Miller - here is a link to the new board's link-list. I had suggested that Leon simply include a link to Bill's link-list, but since Bill has decided to "punish" some of us, that is no longer feasable.

True, Bill has now added my link back in (in fact, in duplicate), but I'm sure that's only to avoid appearing like he's still on his ego-trip.

http://www.network54.com/Index/36021

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Old 02-23-2005, 08:14 AM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

Despite Bill's reconsidering his previous actions, I'm done here. I was participating not only on this board, but also on the game-used board and Leon's board. Yes, I like them all!

Some hobbyists had questioned whether or not there was a "war" between the boards. Not at all. Agreed, there are many on this board who are VERY pissed off at people participating on the other one, but the opposite is NOT true. The only reason I'm leaving this board is out of principle, not because I don't like it. Bill refused to listen to our suggestions, and then he decided to "punish" us when we formed another board.

What if we formed a board to discuss politics? Would Bill then punish us if he decided it was okay to talk politics on THIS board? You guys need a new forum moderator, pure and simple.

Bill has done a better technical job than anyone in the past, but the fascist attitude is no good for anyone...except Jay Behrens.

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Old 02-23-2005, 08:24 AM
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I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Old 02-23-2005, 09:07 AM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

The link was not there for most of the morning...I complained in the above post, and Bill added my link back in.

You feel it necessary to monitor the entire planet - why don't you back off and let others participate?

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Old 02-23-2005, 09:17 AM
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Posted By: steve k

Maybe we should reduce Bill's salary.

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Old 02-23-2005, 09:18 AM
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Posted By: jay behrens


Jay

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Old 02-23-2005, 09:18 AM
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Posted By: warshawlaw

I'm gonna miss all you girls' slap fighting

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Old 02-23-2005, 10:12 AM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

Bill made it a public issue by deleting my link from a publicly-accessed board, as a gesture of ill-will.

What part of that do you not understand? Never mind - I realise, all of it. Every dictator needs a few lackeys - you are just doing your job.

Adam - I slap Jay around for one simple reason: he needs it.

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Old 02-23-2005, 10:15 AM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

I won't be re-visiting this board, even to lurk. Blather on friend.

Sorry, I realize that wasn't too interesting for a final post, especially after so many years...but I just don't give a sh*t. The dictatorial move this morning, followed by the lackey's butt-kissing, pretty much did it for me.

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Old 02-23-2005, 10:30 AM
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Posted By: jay behrens

I'm far from a lacky butt-kisser. The deleting of Leon's link pisses me off too. Jay

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Old 02-23-2005, 10:49 AM
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Posted By: andy becker

jay,
i don't want to get in the middle...but if you delete all your responses....well the only thing i can make out of this post is that you are a self proclaimed "babe magnet"
what's up????

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Old 02-23-2005, 10:59 AM
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Posted By: jay behrens

If you want an answer, drop me an email. I deleted the posts so not to add fuel to scott's fire.

Jay

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Old 02-23-2005, 11:18 AM
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Posted By: andy becker

is the link to leon's site there??? i can't find it.
bill??????

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Old 02-23-2005, 12:08 PM
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Posted By: Anonymous

Big time fan of this Board. Avid collector of T3 Turkey Reds, Ramlys and the uncommon T206 backs--proud owner of fifteen Uzits.

Bill does a GREAT job with this Board. You should be commended for all the 'baby-sitting' that you do and you should be on this year's Nobel Prize ballot. I love what Julie, Trae and Cycleback add to this Board.

Now with Scott gone and offending Leon, this board is rapidly improving. Anyway to offend Jay so he'll leave?

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Old 02-23-2005, 12:11 PM
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Posted By: jay behrens

You'll never get me to leave. I'm not the type to pick my toys and leave. I'm not even the type to pick up my toys. Just ask Lee.

Jay

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Old 02-23-2005, 12:16 PM
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Posted By: andy becker

15 uzits....ouch.
go back to lurking

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Old 02-23-2005, 12:33 PM
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Posted By: davidcycleback

My humble opinion in the matter is that Bill should add a link to Leon's site, and Scott should continue participating on this board (Leon too!). All three are quality people for the hobby.

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Old 02-23-2005, 12:41 PM
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Posted By: JimB

Thank you Bill for all you have been and are doing for this board.
JimB

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Old 02-23-2005, 01:15 PM
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Posted By: Rob L

I know this stuff must of been simmering below the surface, but my posting an additional link about a crappy Ruth autograph started this avalanche. Absolutely crazy. I thinks it is best that f the guys who were getting pissed because us "memorabilia" collectors were beginning to jumble up the thread start there own thing. Probably best for everyone.

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Old 02-23-2005, 03:17 PM
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Posted By: Anonymous

Rob, I'm pretty sure Mommy and Daddy didn't break up because of you.

The problem is that everyone seems to have their own opinion on how this Board should be run and what should be included and excluded. So as this is the land of the free, you can enjoy the Board and Bill's rules or you can leave the Board.

I have my opinions...but I'll just keep mute and choose to enjoy the Board.

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Old 02-23-2005, 03:32 PM
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Posted By: Rob L

I know I helped break Mommy and Daddy. I know I did, I know I did.

BTW, Cap, express your opinions, it's what keeps this board interesting.

Rob L

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Old 02-23-2005, 05:09 PM
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Posted By: Mark Evans

I would not otherwise offer an opinion on this subject but, since I voiced my view that Bill does an excellent job controlling board content, I feel compelled to contribute. I believe even more strongly that Bill should provide links to all other forums that can be expected to be of interest to a significant portion of our members, including of course Leon's and Scott's boards.

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Posted By: Trae R.

CAP-IN-THE-BOX, as an amateur I hold your comment in high regard. Thank you

As soon as I get some time I have some more "tricks" up my sleeve.

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Old 02-23-2005, 08:47 PM
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Posted By: Jim Clarke

Both boards can co-exist. PLus we can still use the same login name which is very simple to remember. Both Bill and Leon are quality people that we should all support. Who else could or would want to be a monitor? Both are doing a fine job! JC

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Old 02-23-2005, 09:38 PM
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Posted By: ramram

This is exactly the anticipated problem...Leon's split has divided the union and both boards are going to suffer. I hope all are happy.

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Old 02-24-2005, 05:19 AM
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Posted By: andy becker

mark is correct. jc is right.
can't the two forums compliment each other???
bill, i for one support you and this forum...but my support is weaning.
WHERE IS LEON'S LINK OR YOUR RESPONSE BILL???

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Old 02-24-2005, 06:54 AM
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Posted By: john/z28jd

The split between boards wasnt a mutual agreement.Most people missed the behind the scenes talking that was involved and i for one think Bill has every right based on that not to put the link up.

There is people using both boards,so its easy to email someone for the link,or if someone asks for the link to send it to him.Neither board will get lost,plenty of people know where they are that frequent both boards.

If the situation on how the other board came about was different then there would be a link to it. Asking Bill to put it up tho without knowing what really happened is akin to spitting in his face after he got pushed down,because you thought the spit would help clean off the dirt.

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Old 02-24-2005, 07:50 AM
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Posted By: andy becker

.........why don't you enlighten me.
that's all i've asked for is an explanation. which i think is fair.
bill owes me nothing, no explanation...nothing at all.
in fact, we (myself included) owe bill a lot.
BUT, when censorship takes place...well someone has to explain to the masses.
or the masses will make their own decisions based on whatever limited, maybe even inaccurate, information is available.

and one more question, are there auction houses that are not linked because of some "behind the scene" bs???
i would HOPE that all known resources are linked, not just the few that are on someone's "approved" list.

and john, i think your analogy speaks volumes to YOUR opinion.

HOW ABOUT SOME FACTS???

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Old 02-24-2005, 09:54 AM
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Posted By: jay behrens

Andy, I don't think you are going to get any "facts" about this becuase this is a behind the scenes pissing match that is going on. Each side will have it's own very biased view.

Jay

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Posted By: andy becker

FYI...i have gotten an email from bill.

there aren't any "facts" i don't know...but i'm trying to be polite...albeit while someone is saying 'what i am doing is akin to spitting in someone's face'.

by the way i have a great amount of respect for the person i am "spitting on"

john, where's the email from you??? did i delete it by accident?

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Old 02-24-2005, 11:01 AM
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Posted By: Chuck R

Does anyone here remember when collecting cards was fun?

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Posted By: Todd (nolemmings)

and it will be fun again, for those who do not find it fun now. I'm guessing when the Spring training games start next week or so, the fever will return. Right now, no real baseball, no football, no hockey, no March madness--basically just mid-season NBA and a litttle golf and auto racing going on. I think everyone's a little crotchety, maybe stir crazy too.

Not trying to sound Pollyannish, but I think it's just one of those little down times--at least I'm hopin.

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Posted By: Tim Mayer

I am sick of hearing about this stuff..

I love this board, and Bill has done a great job,,,it's his board, so he can do whatever he wants with it...

So Leon wanted to start his own board, great! Hope it does well...who cares? what does that have to do with this board...

in the corporate world, people leave and start their own companys all the time,,great! Good luck!

if he thinks he can do better great! I am sure its a cool board...

As for scott,,,you keep saying good bye and that you are not going to post anymore, yet I still see your posts...go if you want....stay if you want,,,,,but this Jerry McGwire " whos coming with me" garbage is a joke...

go,,,leave us alone...



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Posted By: Cy

The fighting is so fierce, because the stakes are so small.

- Henry Kissinger

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Andy i wasnt talking to you specifically and ive never emailed(especially not while i was at work) you so dont worry you didnt delete it.It looks like its been settled but if i told you behind the scenes stuff then it wouldnt be behind the scenes,i deemed it too personal.Scott and Leon werent on the board at the time so it wouldve been wrong for me to make comments they couldnt respond to.Sorry you cant know everything everyone does but if you want to know about my day at work just ask and ill be happy to share

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