AVOID! - A1Gloverepair - Gordon King

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

True, but I think they’ll figure out Gordon is A-OK. That’s a good thing.

That is assuming they read the thread and don't just see the title and move on...

Edited to say - sorry Mark, I just saw your reply

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

I see that Mark (whom I dont know) has listed on his about me page as occupation (Therapist) Might want to do a little work on himself.... Just a thought...

or at least change it to Thera-pissed

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

I see that Mark (whom I dont know) has listed on his about me page as occupation (Therapist) Might want to do a little work on himself.... Just a thought...

That reminds me of an old SNL skit involving "Sean Connery" on the TV show Jeopardy...

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

I see that Mark (whom I dont know) has listed on his about me page as occupation (Therapist)

A graduate of the Sam Kinison School of Therapy, no doubt.

[MCyganik]

As a therapist myself, I know first hand most therapists have just as many issues we can't control as the folks we see. It's easier to dispense wisdom to someone else in a controlled setting than to utilize that knowledge in our own personal lives. Sometimes too much self-actualization can do more harm than good...

That being said, all this guy has to do is apologize and its over. Maybe he was upset about the delay in his COMC order. Oh well, another topic for another session.

- Matt "Don't Look Back In Anger" Cyganik

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by MCyganik

As a therapist myself, I know first hand most therapists have just as many issues we can't control as the folks we see. It's easier to dispense wisdom to someone else in a controlled setting than to utilize that knowledge in our own personal lives. Sometimes too much self-actualization can do more harm than good...

That being said, all this guy has to do is apologize and its over. Maybe he was upset about the delay in his COMC order. Oh well, another topic for another session.

- Matt "Don't Look Back In Anger" Cyganik

Perfect! Yeah, if the OP simply apologized and did the right thing we'd feel closure. The fact that he's aware of the responses and continues to ignore shows who he really is. I know it's not all NY'ers, but friggin NY!

[Marckus99]

I guess I was wrong, he isn’t a crook after all.
I did receive my glove, after just forty five days.

First, although I did receive an email from Gordon, that the glove was on the way.
He did not provide tracking info. No biggie.

Second, upon receipt I noticed the name on the box was incorrect. Hmm.

Third, I originally sent the glove in a special linen bag, that was not shipped back to me. He claims it was his oversight and it would be mailed back to me. Okay, moving on.

Fourth, the glove was not re-laced correctly and as it originally was.
In fact, I can no longer fit my hand into the glove, due to the new re-lacing.

Lastly, the piping along the wrist was CUT OFF! Further, not even replaced.
The job requested was for re-lacing and clean/condition.
I neither requested nor was it discussed to cut into the glove.

See photos below.

Additionally, this is one of Rawlings iconic gloves, issued in ‘55 as a top of the line model, retail $30/32. A mint one just sold on the bay for $1243.

So Doug....ethical?

[Marckus99]

More pics

[Marckus99]

Pics.

[Marckus99]

Finally, I sent Gordon an email regarding the condition of the glove, missing the piping, four days ago. No response.

[batsballsbases]

Mark like I said I dont know you but its good that you came on and tried to set the record straight. The apology (if it was one) looks a little left handed in my opinion. Love to see some other photos of the work on the glove. Now just to be fair about the piping was it loose? Just hanging there? or was it still mostly attached? Now if it was the first two I myself probably would have cut it off. But to your point I would have contacted you first to ask if it was O.K. to do so.. Bottom line is you have your glove ,the man did what looks to be a decent job on it, BUT next time write everything down on a list for "work to be done and what not to be done" So then there is no question.. Life is short dont stress about something that is small. You of all people should know that.... Enjoy the glove...

Thankyou for the extra photos....

[perezfan]

Thanks for finally coming on, Mark...

I agree that the communication was lacking (badly). A phone call was in order, before even touching that rolled leather piping (loose or not).

And he should have checked other exemplars, regarding how to properly lace the glove. Anyone who has ever seen one of these knows that the wrist strap lacing is now incorrect.

I would be equally upset. William (Forum Member here) or Hammer Sports Relics could probably correct some of what was done incorrectly. That is, if you want to sink more money into it. Sorry to see how this went down.

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Thanks for finally coming on, Mark...

I agree that the communication was lacking (badly). A phone call was in order, before even touching that rolled leather piping (loose or not).

And he should have checked other exemplars, regarding how to properly lace the glove. Anyone who has ever seen one of these knows that the wrist strap lacing is now incorrect.

I would be equally upset. William (Forum Member here) or Hammer Sports Relics could probably correct some of what was done incorrectly. That is, if you want to sink more money into it. Sorry to see how this went down.

Well said Mr Steinberg!

This is the best response I've read in this thread.

And I wish you luck going forward if you want to fix the improper re-lacing Mark...

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Marckus99

I guess I was wrong, he isn’t a crook after all.

...

Additionally, this is one of Rawlings iconic gloves, issued in ‘55 as a top of the line model, retail $30/32. A mint one just sold on the bay for $1243.

So Doug....ethical?

Thank you for responding.

I'm not sure what you mean by "So Doug....ethical?"...

Does he have ethics? I think so.

Do you have ethics? I don't know.

Do I have ethics? Yep.

Also, I'm not sure what relevance there is to the fact that a mint condition glove of the same style as yours just sold for $1243. I have a 1952 Topps Mantle with a sharpie mustache and a mint one sells for loads of money, big deal.

One look at the website for A1 tells me that the guy takes gloves that have been used until they are falling apart and repairs them so that they can be used some more. He doesn't claim to be a guy who can restore your glove to mint condition so you can sell it for $1243 on ebay.

The gentleman who owns that company probably defines "restoration" as "making an unusable glove usable" which is not what we collectors consider to be the definition.

I'll bet that he didn't even notice "special linen bag" that you sent the glove in and he probably tossed it aside without a second thought. Hopefully he can find it to send back to you.

You should still change the title of this thread, but I don't really expect that you will, but I suppose your ethics will guide you.

Doug "no witty nickname today, sorry" Goodman

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Marckus99

Finally, I sent Gordon an email regarding the condition of the glove, missing the piping, four days ago. No response.

Four days ago was Friday, maybe he is taking a long weekend.

It took you eight days to reply to this thread...

[Scott Garner]

It's been a while since this thread was started regarding Gordon King the glove restoration expert in Cleveland.

I'm happy to report that Gordon did a beautiful job of restoring the missing lace webbing on my Vandy D & M glove. He also took some time and re-laced it and conditioned the leather with some of his proprietary glove oil that is free of petrolium products and other ingredients that damage leather.

To top it off, he shipped the glove back to me in a "customized" Vandy themed Priority Mail box that brought a smile to my face when it arrived today.

Gordon was a nice guy to deal with and did a very nice job that exceeded my expectations. If you're patient and want a great end result, I would recommend using him.

Check out the end result. Before pictures can be seen earlier in this thread.

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

It's been a while since this thread was started regarding Gordon King the glove restoration expert in Cleveland.

I'm happy to report that Gordon did a beautiful job of restoring the missing lace webbing on my Vandy D & M glove. He also took some time and re-laced it and conditioned the leather with some of his proprietary glove oil that is free of petrolium products and other ingredients that damage leather.

To top it off, he shipped the glove back to me in a "customized" Vandy themed Priority Mail box that brought a smile to my face when it arrived today.

Gordon was a nice guy to deal with and did a very nice job that exceeded my expectations. If you're patient and want a great end result, I would recommend using him.

Check out the end result. Before pictures can be seen earlier in this thread.

Very nice Scott! Looks like a great job! Enjoy the piece! Al

[Chris Counts]

That's a real beauty Scott. It's just too bad the title of the thread reflects so poorly on Gordon. The OP could never prove his claim against him was credible. I hope it can be revised, at least to something that provides balance ...

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by Chris Counts

That's a real beauty Scott. It's just too bad the title of the thread reflects so poorly on Gordon. The OP could never prove his claim against him was credible. I hope it can be revised, at least to something that provides balance ...

I agree. Can't a moderator edit the thread?

[jpop43]

I can't and won't make any comments about the logistics raised in this matter, but that restoration/repair/refurbishment/whatever you want to call it, was done poorly.

There was absolutely no reason to cut off the piping, and the lace replacement was done without any knowledge/research. It'll cost quite a bit to repair that AND it'll never look vintage (match the balance of the existing piping).

Jon
www.dugoutreasures.com

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by jpop43

I can't and won't make any comments about the logistics raised in this matter, but that restoration/repair/refurbishment/whatever you want to call it, was done poorly.

There was absolutely no reason to cut off the piping, and the lace replacement was done without any knowledge/research. It'll cost quite a bit to repair that AND it'll never look vintage (match the balance of the existing piping).

Jon
www.dugoutreasures.com

100% agree...

Thank goodness he left the piping to Scott's Vandy in tact!

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by jpop43

I can't and won't make any comments about the logistics raised in this matter, but that restoration/repair/refurbishment/whatever you want to call it, was done poorly.

There was absolutely no reason to cut off the piping, and the lace replacement was done without any knowledge/research. It'll cost quite a bit to repair that AND it'll never look vintage (match the balance of the existing piping).

Jon
www.dugoutreasures.com

This is spot on.