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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
What do you guys think? |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: davidcycleback
Looks fake to me. At the least, the mount appears not to be original. |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
That's all I needed to hear David. I stayed away thinking fake, but it's nice to hear your hunches confirmed by an expert. |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: davidcycleback
Half the seller's description is about the frame, and if you look at the back the nails appear |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
The item description included the following: |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
You could say he's got a loophole in that with this auction as you would have to "alter" this to be able to authenticate it. |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: Jeremy
I found the same photo in Sotheby's Halper auction. Halper's was much larger & shared the same flaws as the Ebay item, which lead me to believe it was somehow copied from the Sotheby catalog. |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: Mike
Along with "Old Cardboard", I specialize in pre war baseball photos, amd antiques. I have, I suppose 70 pre war wire, and news photos. I have purchased from Henry Yee, and others of the like. I have collected old baseball photos for many years. |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: davidcycleback
Beyond that the frame isn't terribly nice looking, the problem with frames is it make everything |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: ramram
Would be a steal if it was authentic, but odds are against it. Without having it in hand or seeing pics of it without the frame it's hard to tell. However, having dealt with a large number of albumens, it doesn't quite seem to have the right look. Vintage cards are not the only target in the area of forgers anymore. There are a lot of vintage images making the rounds now as well. This is one I've seen before. Most of the fakes were showing up with the early negro league picks at first. Now they've moved on. They try to age them and put them in vintage frames or frames that they think are vintage. The back of that frame doesn't look far removed from the tree it came from. |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I've been burned in the past on ebay photos and I've also gotten some steals - I won this auction the other night and I can't even really see the photos, but I found the auction with 47 seconds before it ended and I acted fast - and I got them very cheap. I'll post better photos when they get here, but I really have no idea what I have here. It's supposedly two baseball teams - I can see one fellow with a baseball bat, but it looks like everyone is dressed in everyday clothing. |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: dan mckee
FAKE |
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Old Boston Photo -Real or Fake?
Posted By: Corey R. Shanus
A number of years ago I had this same image and remember it being consideraly larger, which is consistent with an earlier post about the one in the Halper sale. Assuming those other ones were larger, then this one could not be a first generation image unless the technique of reducing prints from negatives was in commercial usage in the 1880's, and I am not aware of that being the case. Assuming that is correct, then the only way this image could be period is if it was a period photo of a photo, which I think very unlikely. And even if by some miracle it was a period piece, being a second generation image, its value would be considerably reduced. |
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