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Old 10-07-2021, 10:57 AM
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Default 1/1 -- 1/25 Pre-War Items

We all hear about and see the 1/1 and 1/25 modern cards and memorabilia pieces now days at auction and on the internet. Let's see some real pre-war rarities...cards, cabinets, photos and other interesting pre-war gems with a known combined population of less than 25.
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Old 10-07-2021, 11:00 AM
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Good luck finding 25 of these:



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Old 10-07-2021, 11:27 AM
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1927 Babe Comes Home card, on card stock.

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one of only 2 I believe
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Obviously there are probably some raw ones out there, and I don't know SGC's pop, but PSA has graded only five of these Carey type 1s:
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I don't have anything super rare. 3 of my T206 Krause portraits have a combined PSA/SGC pop of 20 or less
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some obscure items
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More obscure ones
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Not many of these around, not a card, calendar top.
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Old 10-07-2021, 12:24 PM
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More obscure ones
WOW WOW and WOW

Super Nice Ruth Cards and Super Hard to find.

Been hunting for years to find one and you have 3.

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Old 10-07-2021, 12:30 PM
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Here is a 1 of 1 (at least that is KNOWN)
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Not quite pre-war, but I love this version of Old Gold Robinson. 1/22 combined graded. Great write up on the back.

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I rather have vintage. Take for example a 1/1 Mike Trout signed card. There are probably 100 if not more other 1/1 cards of Mike Trout.
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That's an awesome card, Jeff.
Here is Chief..

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This is the only PSA graded Witmor Eddie Collins and there are only 25 total PSA graded Witmors. So that's rare, right?
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This is a 1 of 1, and is currently for sale in Memory Lane (sorry for the shameless plug, but it does fit the OPs topic.
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A few other rarities (from 1 of 1 to less than 10), including a rare side-kick to Jeff's amazing Joe Jax

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This Type 2 R308 Tattoo Orbit of Pepper Martin (shown with the smaller R308 as well as the more common and colorful R305 for comparison) only exists as a NFT card.

Brian (NFT = Not For Pterodactyls...because phonetically speaking, they would make a mšk(ə)rē of this card)
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That Wagner Harpers Whiskey issue is incredible.
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MrReality. I donít think that card can be topped.
Congratulations on owning that one.
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WOW. Those are some gorgeous cards. Are there any more to the set?
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Speaking of "1 of 1".......I have four T206's that are unique. Plus, a 1904 team card that appears to be unique.
I acquired these "goodies" over the past 30+ years. I have searched for a 2nd. So far, they still remain unique.


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The DRUM card of Frank Delahanty in my A - B - C - D connection here is unique.







And, I'll throw into this mix a T206 proof.....unique, or what ? I have searched for another Puttman proof for many years.... to no avail.







Last, but not least....Buffalo Bisons 1904 Team card, which represents a significant piece of BB history. The Bisons of the Eastern League were
considered the "World Champions", as there was no Major League World Series in 1904 (the NY Giants refused to play the Boston Americans).




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Not sure of the pop, but i donít think there are 25 of them. Pinkerton Wajo
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Really love the W.W. Smith postcards like Ryan posted. Here's my Wagner and if we're including back variations, my current obsession set.


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Great thread!

Kid Nichols portrait cabinet taken by Chickering ca. 1897. Anyone ever see another?
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Thanks! There are at least 3 more in this set, maybe more. I know the board members have a few of them.
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Kid Nichols portrait cabinet taken by Chickering ca. 1897. Anyone ever see another?
Yes, I used to have one. I will have to dig out an image but I am pretty sure 1897 was inscribed in the negative and thus on the cabinet. A board member has it now(unless he has moved it).
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I think there are 3 or 4 of the W600s known and a similarly small size handfull of the Toledo Colgans.

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MrReality. I donít think that card can be topped.
Congratulations on owning that one.
Appreciated Joe and I enjoy having this card.

But there is a lot of Great Cards that would either top my card or give it a run.

This thread has many great and rare cards showing with more to come
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1917 Boston Store Babe Ruth
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Wouldn't surprise me if there are enough raw examples out there to get over 25, but thus far these two have a combined pop less than 25.



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My guess is that there are not 25 known of any specific Pinkerton cabinet.
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Type card collectors have an unfair advantage in this thread. I paid less the second time I bought this one LOL

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Living in Indy, I bought it strictly for the back. 1 of 2 graded, according to the combined pop reports.
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Type card collectors have an unfair advantage in this thread. I paid less the second time I bought this one LOL
As would 19th Century collectors.

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Pop 21 between SGC and PSA, but also the only card released for Walt "Smoke" Justis
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Some great cards here!

Soon to be slabbed by SGC, but there are only 7 graded of the Huggins Port, Tolstoi reverse T206.

PSA - 4
SGC - 2
BVG - 1

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Black factory 30 Evers/Chance
Blank back Mordecai Brown M116

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Nice M116. I've got an oddity of my own. Have seen some people suggest they're cut from a poster, but there are at least two Walter Johnson no names known and my card is the same stock as the regular issues:

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Not sure of the pop, but i donít think there are 25 of them. Pinkerton Wajo
Wow! This Big Train collector kneels before its greatness.
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Nice M116. I've got an oddity of my own. Have seen some people suggest they're cut from a poster, but there are at least two Walter Johnson no names known and my card is the same stock as the regular issues:

SO there is another of these floating around? Learn something new everyday. I thought there was only one large grouping of them known.

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This 1916 D352 Morehouse Baking of WaJo is a 1 of 1 per the pop reports (no graded examples).

Ethan, please don't take this as a criticism of your post, but all or almost all of the individual cards in very many (if not most) of the pre-War sets have less than 25 examples known to exist. My pre-War favorites are the real-photo, black & white card sets from 1916, 1917 and 1920-22 with a plethora of advertising backs; there are less than 25 examples known of every card in most of these sets. IMHO, for a pre-War card to be considered truly rare there should be less than 5 examples known to exist.
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Old 10-08-2021, 02:44 PM
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Really like this one
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Old 10-08-2021, 03:27 PM
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Another round Wagner, and a square one
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Old 10-08-2021, 03:47 PM
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Here is an irregularly shaped Orange Border Wagner.

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Old 10-08-2021, 03:57 PM
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I think there's about 12 of these out there.
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Old 10-08-2021, 03:59 PM
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Here is another Joe Jackson with a 1 of 1 (known) advertising back
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1921/22 Ruth Throwing Pose "Babe" and George
1921 Frederick Foto Ruth
1917 Boston Store Babe Ruth
Joe Jackson Cards 1916 Advertising Backs
1910 Old Mills Joe Jackson
1914 Boston Garter Joe Jackson
1914 E & S Publishing Card Joe Jackson
other Joe Jackson playing day cards
1911 M110 Sporting Life Cobb and Wagner Cards
1908 Rose Postcard Ty Cobb
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